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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gas torch. No Healey....
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2020 07:28:53 -0800
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I should add that safety is a real concern with highly pressurized, 
flammable gas (pretty much anything will burn in pure oxygen). There are 
lots of videos on YouTube and, of course, lots of books. This is one of 
my go-to websites for welding: https://www.weldingtipsandtricks.com/


On 12/1/2020 7:09 AM, Bob Spidell wrote:
> True MAPP gas hasn't been available in the 'States for years; what 
> they sell now is probably similar to 'AT3000.'  That stuff, as you 
> mention, only gets somewhat hotter than a regular propane torch.
>
> I have, at times, considered something like this (NFI): 
> https://www.lowes.com/pd/Uniweld-Patriot-Oxy-Acetylene-Kit-K23P/1002461868
>
> bob
>
>
> On 12/1/2020 6:52 AM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote:
>>
>> I should like to buy some form of blow torch, something hot. I?m 
>> looking for something hotter than my regular plumbing item and much 
>> cheaper and more portable than the big set-ups?with which I?m barely 
>> acquainted?.MIG, TIG(?) and oxy-acetylene rigs with vast bottles on a 
>> trolley.
>>
>> I?m after something with which to heat up stuck bolts, maybe do a bit 
>> of light brazing or heavy soldering. Something portable?..pick it up, 
>> click, use it, switch off & move on.
>>
>> I?ve seen one set-up which has two small bottles, one of oxygen the 
>> other of ?High power gas mixture AT 3000?. This latter bottle 
>> apparently being a 65% butane & 25% propylene mix.
>>
>> As you may have gathered, I know nothing of these matters?
>>
>> As a sample of what I?m looking for, the first task will require a 
>> rapid heat to solder or braze nuts onto broken off bolts. Rapid 
>> because the bolts are in the underside of the (previous) seat for my 
>> ride-on mower. These bolts are surrounded by the foam rubber of which 
>> the seat is largely built. Were I able to extract them without 
>> wrecking the seat, I could probably flog the seat on eBay for 
>> +/-£75.00 which would largely recoup the cost of a torch?? (Parts and 
>> labour on ride-ons are ridiculous over here. (UK). For example, I 
>> used to take my wife?s Porsche 944S2 to a specialist Porsche garage. 
>> Not a Main Dealer. His hourly rate was less than that of the local 
>> garden machinery thieves). As ever, I digress.
>>
>> So, what should I be looking at? I see MAPP torches, but they don?t 
>> appear to be much better than my plumbing torch?.? Or are they?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Simon
>>
>>
>
>
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    I should add that safety is a real concern with highly pressurized,
    flammable gas (pretty much anything will burn in pure oxygen). There
    are lots of videos on YouTube and, of course, lots of books. This is
    one of my go-to websites for welding: 
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" 
href="https://www.weldingtipsandtricks.com/";>https://www.weldingtipsandtricks.com/</a><br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/1/2020 7:09 AM, Bob Spidell
      wrote:<br>
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      True MAPP gas hasn't been available in the 'States for years; what
      they sell now is probably similar to 'AT3000.'  That stuff, as you
      mention, only gets somewhat hotter than a regular propane torch.<br>
      <br>
      I have, at times, considered something like this (NFI):
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://www.lowes.com/pd/Uniweld-Patriot-Oxy-Acetylene-Kit-K23P/1002461868";
        
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.lowes.com/pd/Uniweld-Patriot-Oxy-Acetylene-Kit-K23P/1002461868</a><br>
      <br>
      bob<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/1/2020 6:52 AM, Simon Lachlan
        via Healeys wrote:<br>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">I should like to buy some form of blow
            torch, something hot. I?m looking for something hotter than
            my regular plumbing item and much cheaper and more portable
            than the big set-ups?with which I?m barely acquainted?.MIG,
            TIG(?) and oxy-acetylene rigs with vast bottles on a
            trolley. <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">I?m after something with which to heat up
            stuck bolts, maybe do a bit of light brazing or heavy
            soldering. Something portable?..pick it up, click, use it,
            switch off &amp; move on. <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">I?ve seen one set-up which has two small
            bottles, one of oxygen the other of ?High power gas mixture
            AT 3000?. This latter bottle apparently being a 65% butane
            &amp; 25% propylene mix.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">As you may have gathered, I know nothing
            of these matters?<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">As a sample of what I?m looking for, the
            first task will require a rapid heat to solder or braze nuts
            onto broken off bolts. Rapid because the bolts are in the
            underside of the (previous) seat for my ride-on mower. These
            bolts are surrounded by the foam rubber of which the seat is
            largely built. Were I able to extract them without wrecking
            the seat, I could probably flog the seat on eBay for
            +/-£75.00 which would largely recoup the cost of a torch??
            (Parts and labour on ride-ons are ridiculous over here.
            (UK). For example, I used to take my wife?s Porsche 944S2 to
            a specialist Porsche garage. Not a Main Dealer. His hourly
            rate was less than that of the local garden machinery
            thieves). As ever, I digress.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">So, what should I be looking at? I see
            MAPP torches, but they don?t appear to be much better than
            my plumbing torch?.? Or are they?<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">Simon<o:p></o:p></p>
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