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Michael,
The article from Roger Moment is in the Austin-Healey Magazine, issue Decem=
ber 2003.
If you are a member of the AHCUSA, you can go on the website and the articl=
e is likely entered there as most of the Technical articles for the past se=
veral years have been downloaded on the website.
If not I can check if I have a copy of that particular magazine in stock, I=
am the Historian for the Club.
Jean
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From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Michael Oritt <=
michael.oritt@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2019 11:09:01 AM
To: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
Cc: Austin Healey <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Brake issue
Michael--
Do you remember the issue and/or can you point me toward it and its possibl=
e resolution?
Best--Michael Oritt
On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 10:11 AM Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com<ma=
ilto:michaelsalter@gmail.com>> wrote:
Regarding pushrod free play.
Unfortunately the known problem with 100 master cylinders is internal to th=
e cylinder itself and is not resolved by ensuring that the push rod has fre=
e play.
Roger Moment wrote an excellent, and of course exhaustive, article on the =
subject many years back after he encountered difficulties when using silico=
n fluid.
M
On Sun, Jul 28, 2019, 9:42 AM warthodson--- via Healeys, <healeys@autox.tea=
I still suspect the lack of proper free play in the brake pedal & this is t=
he easiest to check. Simply adjust the free play, temporarily, such that th=
ere is excessive free play & go for a test drive.
Gary H
-----Original Message-----
>>
Kees--
That is about the procedure I envisioned following.
Since there has never been any pulling to one side I doubt the failure is a=
t one particular corner, but the hoses are at least 15 years old and deserv=
e replacement. I replaced the MC innards with a kit a year or so ago but w=
ill go through it again and replace as necessary. I'll also flush the syst=
em thoroughly.
Best--Michael Oritt
On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 8:39 AM Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs@chello.nl<mail=
to:coudesluijs@chello.nl>> wrote:
Go through each component one by one. Start with new brake hoses if they ar=
e still the old fashioned rubber/textile construction. How old are they by =
the way? Probably decades so renewal was probably well overdue. Also flush =
the entire brake system with fresh brake fluid as there may be some debris =
in it somewhere. Try again and if solved it may well have been collapsed i=
nner wall of one or both of the tubes. If not solved adjust the rod on the =
MBC. Still not solved, renew or overhaul the MBC and adjust the rod.
When rebuilding brake components do NOT use clean brake fluid but the speci=
al brake grease from At=E9, Girling or equivalent.
Overheating is unlikely as that will generally lead to complete loss of bra=
kes.
Kees Oudesluijs
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Michael,</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The article from Roger Moment is in the Austin-Heale=
y Magazine, issue December 2003.
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">If you are a member of the AHCUSA, you can go on the=
website and the article is likely entered there as most of the Technical a=
rticles for the past several years have been downloaded on the website.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">If not I can check if I have a copy of that particul=
ar magazine in stock, I am the Historian for the Club.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jean</p>
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ounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmai=
l.com><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, July 28, 2019 11:09:01 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Austin Healey <healeys@autox.team.net><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Brake issue</font>
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<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Michael--</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Do you remember the is=
sue and/or can you point me toward it and its possible resolution?</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Best--Michael Oritt</d=
iv>
</div>
<br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 10:11 AM Mich=
ael Salter <<a href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com";>michaelsalter@gma=
il.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"auto">Regarding pushrod free play.
<div dir=3D"auto">Unfortunately the known problem with 100 master cylinders=
is internal to the cylinder itself and is not resolved by ensuring that th=
e push rod has free play.</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Roger Moment wrote an excellent, and of course exhaustive=
, article on the subject many years back after he encountered difficu=
lties when using silicon fluid. </div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">M</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Jul 28, 2019, 9:42 AM warthod=
son--- via Healeys, <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D=
"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div style=3D"color:black;font:10pt arial">
<div>I still suspect the lack of proper free play in the brake pedal & =
this is the easiest to check. Simply adjust the free play, temporarily, suc=
h that there is excessive free play & go for a test drive. </div>
<div>Gary H</div>
<br>
<br>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black">-----=
Original Message-----<br>
From: Michael Oritt <<a href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com"; rel=3D"n=
oreferrer" target=3D"_blank">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: Kees Oudesluijs <<a href=3D"mailto:coudesluijs@chello.nl"; rel=3D"nor=
eferrer" target=3D"_blank">coudesluijs@chello.nl</a>><br>
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6gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">
Kees--</div>
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6gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">
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<div class=3D"gmail-m_7113786730106686978m_-8915207665016150380yiv195799226=
6gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">
That is about the procedure I envisioned following. </div>
<div class=3D"gmail-m_7113786730106686978m_-8915207665016150380yiv195799226=
6gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">
<br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail-m_7113786730106686978m_-8915207665016150380yiv195799226=
6gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">
Since there has never been any pulling to one side I doubt the failure is a=
t one particular corner, but the hoses are at least 15 years old and deserv=
e replacement. I replaced the MC innards with a kit a year or so ago =
but will go through it again and replace
as necessary. I'll also flush the system thoroughly.</div>
<div class=3D"gmail-m_7113786730106686978m_-8915207665016150380yiv195799226=
6gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">
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Best--Michael Oritt</div>
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6gmail_quote">
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6yqt9413654283" id=3D"gmail-m_7113786730106686978m_-8915207665016150380yiv1=
957992266yqt66723">
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6gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">
On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 8:39 AM Kees Oudesluijs <<a href=3D"mailto:coude=
sluijs@chello.nl" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" tar=
get=3D"_blank">coudesluijs@chello.nl</a>> wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
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d rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<div>Go through each component one by one. Start with new brake hoses if th=
ey are still the old fashioned rubber/textile construction. How old are the=
y by the way? Probably decades so renewal was probably well overdue. Also f=
lush the entire brake system with
fresh brake fluid as there may be some debris in it somewhere. Try a=
gain and if solved it may well have been collapsed inner wall of one or bot=
h of the tubes. If not solved adjust the rod on the MBC. Still not solved, =
renew or overhaul the MBC and adjust
the rod. <br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>When rebuilding brake components do NOT use clean brake fluid but the =
special brake grease from At=E9, Girling or equivalent.<br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>Overheating is unlikely as that will generally lead to complete loss o=
f brakes.</div>
<div>Kees Oudesluijs</div>
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