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I did the stock iron slugs (manifolds ;-) with Jethot and love it. =
Hint they give a certificate for money off after the first job done. So =
if you like it on your headers you could get money off the intake =
manifold. I went with standard silver. They can do it in many colors. =
Many pro drag racers do this inside and outside headers for flow and =
durability. Looks like chrome / kinda.=20
=20
From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of =
Michael Oritt
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 11:32 AM
To: Al Fuller
Cc: healeys
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Jet-coating, wrap or do nothing to stainless =
headers?
=20
Al--
=20
Jet-Hot's contact info is:
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http://www.jet-hot.com/contact/
=20
Best--Michael Oritt
=20
On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 2:11 PM, Al Fuller <al@bighealey.org> wrote:
Michael: can you share with us who you use for the Jet-Hot coating?
=20
Thanks,
=20
Al Fuller
al at bighealey dot org
'65 BJ-8
'85 Rx-7
=20
From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of =
Michael Oritt
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 10:11 AM
To: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Cc: healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Jet-coating, wrap or do nothing to stainless =
headers?
=20
I had the DW header pipes on my 100 wrapped with heat tape for about two =
years, then took it off and went to a reflective shield. I noticed no =
deterioration of the pipes when I changed over to the shield and that =
was ten years ago.
=20
I don't believe that polishing is not the way to go as sometimes the =
process brings impurities to the surface and causes a lot of corrosion, =
esp. in SS. I have Jet-Hot coating or the like on the headers of all of =
my race cars and everything is intact and nice and shiny! =20
=20
Best--Michael Oritt
=20
On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> =
wrote:
I'll add that, although I wrapped the mild steel downpipes on my BJ8 and =
have no problems--that I know of--I've become reluctant to recommend it. =
I've seen photographic evidence of pipes being severely eroded by =
wrapping; though it appears to be a hit-or-miss issue, and may be due, =
in part, to how they were wrapped and what they were wrapped with (I =
have to believe if it was a very common problem nobody would buy the =
wrap and companies would cease to sell it). I wouldn't expect ceramic =
coating to be a problem, at least if the pipes were coated both inside =
and outside (inside only might even be better).
=20
Here in the colonies we mostly have to use gas with 10% ethanol ('pure' =
gas is available at some stations, but it's relatively rare). On a warm =
day, if my engine is hot and shut down for less than a couple hours and =
restarted I'll get some stumbling until air flow has cooled everything =
off a bit. I can't say with absolute certainty that the gasahol is the =
problem, but I don't recall this ever happening before the new =
formulation became prevalent. I think ceramic coating the manifold =
might cure this problem.
=20
Bob
=20
_____ =20
From: "Oudesluys" <coudesluijs@chello.nl>
To: "healeys" <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 2:28:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Jet-coating, wrap or do nothing to stainless =
headers?
=20
Mirror polish them and leave them alone. Wrapping may lead to burning =
the metal away, coating possibly a similar story. By polishing you =
reduce the radiation of heat so the carbs should remain relatively cool. =
Anyway Webers/DellOrto's do not have the tendency to boil fuel. Also a =
car with an electric fuel pump does not normally have problems with fuel =
vapour lock.
Kees Oudesluijs
Op 15-11-2015 om 11:11 schreef Simon Lachlan:
I have stainless headers going down into a big bore(?) exhaust.
Opinions seem to vary as to the merits of wrapping, coating or doing =
nothing to them .
I have Webers above them, but I suspect, in my ignorance, that these are =
maybe less prone to evaporation issues than SUs.
What does the panel think?
See attached for a well researched synopsis. (Not by me!)
Simon
\
=20
=20
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Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>I did the stock iron slugs (manifolds ;-)=C2=A0 with Jethot and love =
it.=C2=A0 Hint they give a certificate for money off after the first job =
done.=C2=A0 So if you like it on your headers you could get money off =
the intake manifold.=C2=A0 I went with standard silver.=C2=A0 They can =
do it in many colors.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Many pro drag racers do this inside =
and outside headers for flow and durability.=C2=A0 Looks like chrome / =
kinda. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Michael Oritt<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 17, 2015 11:32 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> Al Fuller<br><b>Cc:</b> healeys<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[Healeys] Jet-coating, wrap or do nothing to stainless =
headers?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'>Al--<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>Jet-Hot's contact info =
is:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'><a =
href=3D"http://www.jet-hot.com/contact/";>http://www.jet-hot.com/contact/<=
/a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>Best--Michael =
Oritt</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On Tue, =
Nov 17, 2015 at 2:11 PM, Al Fuller <<a =
href=3D"mailto:al@bighealey.org"; =
target=3D"_blank">al@bighealey.org</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Michael: can you share with us who you use for the Jet-Hot =
coating?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Al Fuller</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>al at bighealey dot org</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>'65 BJ-8</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>'85 Rx-7</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span=
></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Healeys =
[mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Michael Oritt<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, November 15, 2015 10:11 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> Bob Spidell <<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">bspidell@comcast.net</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> healeys =
<<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>></span><o:p></o:p></p><di=
v><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] =
Jet-coating, wrap or do nothing to stainless =
headers?<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'>I had the DW header pipes on my 100 wrapped with =
heat tape for about two years, then took it off and went to a reflective =
shield. I noticed no deterioration of the pipes when I changed =
over to the shield and that was ten years =
ago.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'>I don't believe that polishing is not the way to =
go as sometimes the process brings impurities to the surface and causes =
a lot of corrosion, esp. in SS. I have Jet-Hot coating or the like =
on the headers of all of my race cars and everything is intact and nice =
and shiny! </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'>Best--Michael =
Oritt</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Sun, Nov =
15, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Bob Spidell <<a =
href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">bspidell@comcast.net</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid =
#CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I'll add that, =
although I wrapped the mild steel downpipes on my BJ8 and have no =
problems--that I know of--I've become reluctant to recommend it. =
I've seen photographic evidence of pipes being severely eroded by =
wrapping; though it appears to be a hit-or-miss issue, and may be due, =
in part, to how they were wrapped and what they were wrapped with (I =
have to believe if it was a very common problem nobody would buy the =
wrap and companies would cease to sell it). I wouldn't expect =
ceramic coating to be a problem, at least if the pipes were coated both =
inside and outside (inside only might even be =
better).</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><o:p>=
</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Here in the =
colonies we mostly have to use gas with 10% ethanol ('pure' gas is =
available at some stations, but it's relatively rare). On a warm =
day, if my engine is hot and shut down for less than a couple hours and =
restarted I'll get some stumbling until air flow has cooled everything =
off a bit. I can't say with absolute certainty that the gasahol is =
the problem, but I don't recall this ever happening before the new =
formulation became prevalent. I think ceramic coating the manifold =
might cure this problem.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><o:p>=
</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Bob</span><o:p></o=
:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><o:p>=
</o:p></p></div><div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter =
style=3D'text-align:center'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=3D2 =
width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter></span></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>From: =
</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>"Oudesluy=
s" <<a href=3D"mailto:coudesluijs@chello.nl"; =
target=3D"_blank">coudesluijs@chello.nl</a>><br><b>To: =
</b>"healeys" <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br><b>Sent: </b>Sunday, =
November 15, 2015 2:28:55 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] =
Jet-coating, wrap or do nothing to stainless =
headers?</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><=
o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Mirror polish =
them and leave them alone. Wrapping may lead to burning the metal away, =
coating possibly a similar story. By polishing you reduce the radiation =
of heat so the carbs should remain relatively cool. Anyway =
Webers/DellOrto's do not have the tendency to boil fuel. Also a car with =
an electric fuel pump does not normally have problems with fuel vapour =
lock.<br>Kees Oudesluijs<br><br><br><br><br>Op 15-11-2015 om 11:11 =
schreef Simon Lachlan:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'>I have stainless headers going down into a big =
bore(?) exhaust.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'>Opinions seem to vary as to the merits of =
wrapping, coating or doing nothing to them .</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'>I have Webers above them, but I suspect, in my =
ignorance, that these are maybe less prone to evaporation issues than =
SUs.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'>What does the panel think?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'>See attached for a well researched synopsis. (Not =
by me!)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'>Simon</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><br>\</span><o=
:p></o:p></p></blockquote><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><=
o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><o:p>=
</o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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