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Re: [Fot] Coolant conundrum

To: Tony Drews <tony@tonydrews.com>, FOT Triumph <fot@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Coolant conundrum
From: Anthony Parker via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2023 18:27:10 +0000
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Thanks Tony,

It's a GT6.

I understand and agree with you.


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From: Tony Drews <tony@tonydrews.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2023 2:17 PM
To: Anthony Parker <solarant@hotmail.com>; FOT Triumph <fot@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Coolant conundrum


You don't say what kind of car.  I had a similar issue in my TR-4, changed =
head gasket 3 times and then discovered I had a crack in the head in the co=
mbustion chamber.


Sure sounds like a leak from combustion chamber into cooling system from th=
e description.  Temperature spikes after pushing out water is a classic sym=
ptom, the rapid pressurization is a classic symptom.


Regards, Tony Drews


On 9/23/2023 10:02 AM, Anthony Parker via Fot wrote:
I'm having cooling problems.
Need help being convinced that I have to do what I don't want to do.

Brand new short block, same old head, water pump, and radiator.

Over three trials, the engine will run fine and warm up with radiator hoses=
 and radiator warming properly. Then the hoses and radiator will cool and c=
oolant temp will spike to 230+. Radiator cold with sky high coolant temps.

Two more clues, hoses seem to pressurize very quickly and when I opened the=
 radiator cap this morning (after cooling all night) pressurized air and co=
olant shot everywhere.

No thermostat and I have confirmed three times that system is completely fu=
ll

Seems I have combustion gases getting into coolant and then bubbles eventua=
lly removing pump prime.

Don't know what else it could be.

Given the apparent direction of the leak, is there any use in trying some "=
stop leak" product?

Is it time to pull the head again to look for warping or gasket leak?

I suppose it could be a cracked cylinder, but this block has been checked b=
y two different trusted engine machinists.

Desperately trying to get to the RunOffs, Anthony.



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It's a GT6.</div>
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I understand and agree with you.</div>
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yle=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> Tony Drews &lt;tony@t=
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<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 23, 2023 2:17 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Anthony Parker &lt;solarant@hotmail.com&gt;; FOT Triumph &lt;fot=
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<p>You don't say what kind of car.&nbsp; I had a similar issue in my TR-4, =
changed head gasket 3 times and then discovered I had a crack in the head i=
n the combustion chamber.<br>
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<p>Sure sounds like a leak from combustion chamber into cooling system from=
 the description.&nbsp; Temperature spikes after pushing out water is a cla=
ssic symptom, the rapid pressurization is a classic symptom.<br>
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<p>Regards, Tony Drews<br>
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<div class=3D"x_moz-cite-prefix">On 9/23/2023 10:02 AM, Anthony Parker via =
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<div class=3D"x_ContentPasted0" style=3D"margin:0px">Over three trials, the=
 engine will run fine and warm up with radiator hoses and radiator warming =
properly. Then the hoses and radiator will cool and coolant temp will spike=
 to 230+. Radiator cold with sky high
 coolant temps.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"margin:0px"><br class=3D"x_ContentPasted0">
</div>
<div class=3D"x_ContentPasted0" style=3D"margin:0px">Two more clues, hoses =
seem to pressurize very quickly and when I opened the radiator cap this mor=
ning (after cooling all night) pressurized air and coolant shot everywhere.=
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<div class=3D"x_ContentPasted0" style=3D"margin:0px">Seems I have combustio=
n gases getting into coolant and then bubbles eventually removing pump prim=
e.</div>
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Don't know what else it could be.</div>
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<div class=3D"x_ContentPasted0 x_elementToProof" style=3D"">Given the appar=
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quot; product?</div>
<div class=3D"x_ContentPasted0 x_elementToProof" style=3D""><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"x_ContentPasted0 x_elementToProof" style=3D"">Is it time to p=
ull the head again to look for warping or gasket leak?</div>
<div class=3D"x_ContentPasted0 x_elementToProof" style=3D""><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"x_ContentPasted0 x_elementToProof" style=3D"">I suppose it co=
uld be a cracked cylinder, but this block has been checked by two different=
 trusted engine machinists.</div>
<div class=3D"x_ContentPasted0 x_elementToProof" style=3D""><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"x_ContentPasted0 x_elementToProof" style=3D"">Desperately try=
ing to get to the RunOffs, Anthony.</div>
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