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To: Tony and Annie Garmey <horizonracing@msn.com>, Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>, Brad Eells <tr4abrad@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-3 race tires and wheels
From: DAVE HOGYE via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2022 07:04:04 -0700 (PDT)
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Well, I forgot about two really fast Baby Doll Morgans that have always run=
 wires and finish at the front of the pack regularly.  Wires are still popu=
lar at the Goodwood event too.=20
Dave H.

>     On 07/27/2022 7:04 PM Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot <fot@autox.team.n=
et> wrote:
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>     Run the wires if you wish ( I think it=E2=80=99s great ) , but would =
suggest the Hoosier vintage TD .
>     500-15 & 550 -15=20
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>     They slide around a bit/ fairly period correct.
>     After each on track session - run your finger around each wheel over =
the spokes. You=E2=80=99ll know when there=E2=80=99s a broken one.
>     I=E2=80=99ve raced a number of cars on wires .
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>     Good luck
>     Tony Garmey
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>     Sent from my iPhone
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>         > > On Jul 27, 2022, at 5:43 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot@autox.te=
am.net> wrote:
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>         > >         Erik,
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> >         I can=E2=80=99t speak to all the various vintage racing group r=
ules but SCCA banned wire wheels in road racing in the 1960=E2=80=99s.=20
> >=20
> >         Most vintage groups use the 1972 SCCA GCR as their guiding rule=
 set.=20
> >=20
> >         On a personal note, I don=E2=80=99t think I would put wire whee=
ls on the track whether or not they are permitted.
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> >         Brad Eells
> >         Sent from my iPhone
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> >             > > > On Jul 27, 2022, at 2:54 PM, Terry Stetler via Fot <f=
ot@autox.team.net> wrote:
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> > >             Erik,
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> > >             The ONLY tire I would think of using with wire wheels, an=
d ONLY the 72 spoke Daytons with the heavy spokes, would be the old style, =
skinny vintage Dunlop bias plys.  Modern, uber sticky radia race rubber lik=
e the Hoosier Speedsters is a recipe for trouble.  None of the front runnin=
g TRs that I know of are running wire wheels.  There are very good reasons =
for this.
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> > >             Just my humble opinion after 20 years of taking care of J=
eff=E2=80=99s TR3=E2=80=A6
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> > >=20
> > >             Terry Stetler
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > >             Sent from Mail https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D=
550986 for Windows
> > >=20
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> > >             From: Erik Jacobsen via Fot mailto:fot@autox.team.net
> > >             Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2022 8:28 AM
> > >             To: FOT Triumph mailto:fot@autox.team.net
> > >             Subject: [Fot] TR-3 race tires and wheels
> > >=20
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> > >             Triumph racers,=20
> > >=20
> > >             Karen and I are looking to get our TR-3 together so I can=
 race it in the Kastner Cup next year at RA (she'll race her TR-6), and I a=
m looking for some insight on wire wheel sizes people are using. I will be =
running wires likely with Hoosier Speedsters, and am curious what others ar=
e using. 72 spoke, or 60? 15 x 5" or 15 x 6"?=20
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> > >             =20
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> > >             Thanks much!
> > >=20
> > >             Jake Jacobsen
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> > >             =20
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   <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">Well, I forgot =
about two really fast Baby Doll Morgans that have always run wires and fini=
sh at the front of the pack regularly.&nbsp; Wires are still popular at the=
 Goodwood event too.&nbsp;</span>
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   <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">Dave H.</span>
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   <div>
    On 07/27/2022 7:04 PM Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.=
net&gt; wrote:
   </div>
   <div>
    <br>
   </div>
   <div>
    <br>
   </div>Run the wires if you wish ( I think it=E2=80=99s great ) , but wou=
ld suggest the Hoosier vintage TD .
   <div>
    500-15 &amp; 550 -15&nbsp;
   </div>
   <div>
    <br>
   </div>
   <div>
    They slide around a bit/ fairly period correct.
   </div>
   <div>
    After each on track session - run your finger around each wheel over th=
e spokes. You=E2=80=99ll know when there=E2=80=99s a broken one.
   </div>
   <div>
    I=E2=80=99ve raced a number of cars on wires .
   </div>
   <div>
    <br>
   </div>
   <div>
    Good luck
   </div>
   <div>
    Tony Garmey
    <br>
    <br>
    <div dir=3D"ltr">
     Sent from my iPhone
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    <div dir=3D"ltr">
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     <blockquote type=3D"cite">
      On Jul 27, 2022, at 5:43 PM, Brad Eells via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.ne=
t&gt; wrote:
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      <br>
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    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     <div dir=3D"ltr">
      Erik,
      <div>
       <br>
      </div>
      <div>
       I can=E2=80=99t speak to all the various vintage racing group rules =
but SCCA banned wire wheels in road racing in the 1960=E2=80=99s.&nbsp;
      </div>
      <div>
       <br>
      </div>
      <div>
       Most vintage groups use the 1972 SCCA GCR as their guiding rule set.=
&nbsp;
      </div>
      <div>
       <br>
      </div>
      <div>
       On a personal note, I don=E2=80=99t think I would put wire wheels on=
 the track whether or not they are permitted.
      </div>
      <div>
       <br>
       <div dir=3D"ltr">
        Brad Eells
        <div>
         Sent from my iPhone
        </div>
       </div>
       <div dir=3D"ltr">
        <br>
        <blockquote type=3D"cite">
         On Jul 27, 2022, at 2:54 PM, Terry Stetler via Fot &lt;fot@autox.t=
eam.net&gt; wrote:
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          <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Erik,</p>
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p>
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal">The ONLY tire I would think of using with =
wire wheels, and ONLY the 72 spoke Daytons with the heavy spokes, would be =
the old style, skinny vintage Dunlop bias plys.&nbsp; Modern, uber sticky r=
adia race rubber like the Hoosier Speedsters is a recipe for trouble.&nbsp;=
 None of the front running TRs that I know of are running wire wheels.&nbsp=
; There are very good reasons for this.</p>
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p>
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Just my humble opinion after 20 years of t=
aking care of Jeff=E2=80=99s TR3=E2=80=A6</p>
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p>
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Terry Stetler</p>
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p>
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p>
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sent from <a href=3D"https://go.microsoft.=
com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986"> Mail</a> for Windows</p>
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p>
          <div style=3D"mso-element: para-border-div; border: none; border-=
top: solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;">
           <p style=3D"border: none; padding: 0in;" class=3D"MsoNormal"><st=
rong>From: </strong><a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>Erik Jacobsen via=
 Fot</a><br><strong>Sent: </strong>Wednesday, July 27, 2022 8:28 AM<br><str=
ong>To: </strong><a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>FOT Triumph</a><br><=
strong>Subject: </strong>[Fot] TR-3 race tires and wheels</p>
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            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-f=
amily: 'Helvetica',sans-serif;">Triumph racers,&nbsp;</span></p>
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            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-f=
amily: 'Helvetica',sans-serif;">Karen and I are looking to get our TR-3 tog=
ether so I can race it in the Kastner Cup next year at RA (she'll race her =
TR-6), and I am looking for some insight on wire wheel sizes people are usi=
ng. I will be running wires likely with Hoosier Speedsters, and am curious =
what others are using. 72 spoke, or 60? 15 x 5" or 15 x 6"?&nbsp;</span></p=
>
           </div>
           <div>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-f=
amily: 'Helvetica',sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
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            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-f=
amily: 'Helvetica',sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
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            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-f=
amily: 'Helvetica',sans-serif;">Thanks much!</span></p>
           </div>
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            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-f=
amily: 'Helvetica',sans-serif;">Jake Jacobsen</span></p>
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          <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-fam=
ily: 'Helvetica',sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
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