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We have ALL been there! Ken
From: Fot <fot-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Chris Marx via Fot
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2022 12:19 PM
To: 'Steven Belfer' <steve@artwithcars.com>; 'fot@autox. team. net' <fot@au=
tox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Tire Regulations
What I painfully learned at Watkins Glen.
Cheers
Chris
Im Auftrag von Steven Belfer via Fot
Gesendet: Dienstag, 28. Juni 2022 21:11
Betreff: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Tire Regulations
Whatever tires you got, remember, =E2=80=9Cto finish first, you must first =
finish=E2=80=9D
~Steve
On Jun 28, 2022, at 12:03 PM, Ken Knight via Fot <fot@autox.team.net <mailt=
o:fot@autox.team.net> > wrote:
=EF=BB=BF
At the four K Cups I have attended, and raced at, you could run your car as=
eligible in your home club. When I was K Cup Race Chair in 2019 at Button=
willow VARA made it clear from the start that if your car was legal in you=
r club (tires and all) you would be allowed to run with us no questions ask=
ed. VARA even extended that to our run groups and if you won, you won, no =
exclusions for tires. This sounds like a sensible way to race the K Cup an=
d it will not have an impact on who takes home the K Cup this year, tires a=
nd finishing place position have never dictated the winner.
Ken
Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986> for Wind=
ows
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2022 8:59 AM
to:tr4racing@googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Tire Regulations
Scott,
I=E2=80=99m not familiar with the US rules of racing.
On FIA racing they require period correct tires for vintage racing.
Means threaded tires for cars before 1972 and slicks for cars after that da=
te.
There are certainly racing series who have their own rules and allow slicks=
or semis licks for older cars but this are special rules and not the histo=
ric correct FIA rules.
Now the problem:
In K-Cup competing cars of 3 decades 50ties, 60ties, 70ties and they all ha=
d different rules and different tires and brakes and modification regulatio=
ns.
Means it is unfair by design as an old TR2 can=E2=80=99t hold up with a TR6=
and a TR6 can=E2=80=99t compete with a prepped IMSA GTO TR8.
They=E2=80=99re all different animals on different modification levels and =
the outcome is for a good part predictable.
I=E2=80=99m only a guest in your and run what I get told. I don=E2=80=99t b=
other about tires. It just needs 4 wheels to make me happy, nothing else.
I don=E2=80=99t care about threads or not. I even drive on slicks in rain i=
f necessary.
I don=E2=80=99t know if the tires are already ordered but if they=E2=80=99r=
e slicks, we cut them to make them fitting the rules.
If that not helps, we put WD40 on to make them slick.
Cheers
Chris
Gesendet: Montag, 27. Juni 2022 23:54
Betreff: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Tire Regulations
tire rules are generally per the sponsoring club for the event, as I unders=
tand it. VRG (and PVGP, who I believe uses the VRG tire rules) have never=
allowed slicks, so they had to make an exception here. However, it=E2=80=
=99s not enforced, so cars have been seen that go through tech with treaded=
tires, which may end up being raced with other tires - just sayin! Tech i=
s basically a safety process, not a rules enforcement - we are supposed to =
be self-policing. I think you=E2=80=99re seeing a pretty good reaction her=
e because of the late timing of the announcement, and also because many of =
the Triumph racers at this event run a lot of races with VRG and other east=
coast clubs that require treaded tires. It really does put the cars on an=
unequal footing (no pun intended) and all other things being equal, the ca=
r on slicks will be significantly faster. We all know ways we could make o=
ur cars faster - wider wheels, spoilers, air dams, programmable ignition - =
but that=E2=80=99s not vintage.
I for one am glad to see other interesting Triumphs show up for the event, =
even if SCCA prepared - just factor the tires into who gets the awards. I =
personally feel that if you podium by 1-2 seconds a lap on slicks, you=E2=
=80=99ve lost your bragging rights.
Just my 2 cents.
Scott
On Jun 27, 2022, at 5:21 PM, Chris Marx via Fot <fot@autox.team.net <mailto=
:fot@autox.team.net> > wrote:
Just a question.
When I was part of the K-Cup in 2013 and 2019 there were cars on slicks in =
the K-Cup race.
Has the rule been changed that slicks are not allowed anymore?
Cheers
Chris
Im Auftrag von Jason Sukey via Fot
Gesendet: Montag, 27. Juni 2022 19:49
Betreff: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Tire Regulations
The way I read it, treaded slick racers are still competing for podiums dur=
ing the K Cup races, but I could be mis-interpreting it.
Jason
On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:45 PM Brian Dolan via Fot <fot@autox.team.net <ma=
ilto:fot@autox.team.net> > wrote:
Seems like a reasonable compromise to allow more people to race, while sett=
ing standards for who can podium.
Am I missing something on that angle?
On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:39 PM Scott Janzen via Fot <fot@autox.team.net <m=
ailto:fot@autox.team.net> > wrote:
Not good news for those of us who consistently run vintage, which typically=
requires treaded tires, and are not going to buy a set of R7s for this eve=
nt.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 27, 2022, at 12:11 PM, Curt Johnston via Fot <fot@autox.team.net <ma=
ilto:fot@autox.team.net> > wrote:
=EF=BB=BF
Its good news that we have nearly 40 cars registered for the Kastner Cup th=
is year (39 as of today). But it would be great to be at 40 or more for th=
e 20th Kastner Cup!
I wanted to share news about tires that may have impacted some of our group=
that typically run on slick tires. PVGP has modified the "no slicks" rule=
for Triumphs. You can run grooved slick tires in the Kastner Cup. You ca=
n also run these tires in the regular run groups, but you will not be eligi=
ble for any awards for podium recognition. For those that don't have tire =
options this will certainly help.
So if you're on the fence about attending this year for whatever reason, pl=
ease consider joining a huge 20th Kastner Cup at Pitt Race.
Regular entry fee is $595, plus $50 for the Kastner Cup. After July 1, the=
fee goes up to $645, so act now!
2022 PVGP Historics at Pitt Race <https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/2022=
-pvgp-historics-at-pitt-race-pittsburgh-international-compl-vintage-771031>=
<https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/2022-pvgp-historics-at-pitt-race-pi=
ttsburgh-international-compl-vintage-771031> (motorsportreg.com)
Thanks.
Curt Johnston
Kastner Cup Race Committee Chair
707-249-1667
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nk=3Dpurple style=3D'word-wrap:break-word'><div class=3DWordSection1><p cla=
ss=3DMsoNormal>We have ALL been there!=C2=A0 Ken<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DM=
soNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:sol=
id #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</=
b> Fot <fot-bounces@autox.team.net> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Chris Marx vi=
a Fot<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 28, 2022 12:19 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Steven=
Belfer' <steve@artwithcars.com>; 'fot@autox. team. net' <fot@auto=
x.team.net><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Tire Regulations<o:=
p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=
=3DMsoNormal>What I painfully learned at Watkins Glen.<o:p></o:p></p><p cla=
ss=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Cheers<o:p></o:p><=
/p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Chris<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> =
;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style=3D'bor=
der:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DDE>Von:</span></b><span lang=3DDE> Fot <<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net";>fot-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&g=
t; <b>Im Auftrag von </b>Steven Belfer via Fot<br><b>Gesendet:</b> Dienstag=
, 28. Juni 2022 21:11<br><b>An:</b> fot@autox. team. net <<a href=3D"mai=
lto:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>><br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [=
Fot] Kastner Cup Tire Regulations<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Whatever tires you g=
ot, remember, =E2=80=9Cto finish first, you must first finish=E2=80=9D &nbs=
p; <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></di=
v><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p=
></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>~Steve<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNorm=
al><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'marg=
in-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0p=
t;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>=
On Jun 28, 2022, at 12:03 PM, Ken Knight via Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@=
autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquot=
e></div><blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>=EF=BB=BF<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>At the four =
K Cups I have attended, and raced at, you could run your car as eligible in=
your home club. When I was K Cup Race Chair in 2019 at Buttonwillow =
VARA made it clear from the start that if your car was legal in your =
club (tires and all) you would be allowed to run with us no questions asked=
=2E VARA even extended that to our run groups and if you won, you won=
, no exclusions for tires. This sounds like a sensible way to race th=
e K Cup and it will not have an impact on who takes home the K Cup this yea=
r, tires and finishing place position have never dictated the winner.<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Ken=
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNorm=
al>Sent from <a href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986";>M=
ail</a> for Windows<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p=
><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in=
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From: </b><a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.tea=
m.net">Chris Marx via Fot</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, June 28, 2022 8:59 A=
M<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:sjanzen@me.com";>'Scott Janzen'</a>; <a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com";>tr4racing@googlemail.com</a><br><b>C=
c: </b><a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>''Friends of Triumph' Triumph'=
</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Tire Regulations<o:p></o:p></=
p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><spa=
n lang=3DDE>Scott,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DD=
E> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I=E2=80=99m not familiar=
with the US rules of racing.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>On FIA rac=
ing they require period correct tires for vintage racing.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Means threaded tires for cars before 1972 and slicks for =
cars after that date.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>There are certainl=
y racing series who have their own rules and allow slicks or semis licks fo=
r older cars but this are special rules and not the historic correct FIA ru=
les.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMso=
Normal>Now the problem:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>In K-Cup competi=
ng cars of 3 decades 50ties, 60ties, 70ties and they all had different rule=
s and different tires and brakes and modification regulations.<o:p></o:p></=
p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Means it is unfair by design as an old TR2 can=E2=80=
=99t hold up with a TR6 and a TR6 can=E2=80=99t compete with a prepped IMSA=
GTO TR8.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>They=E2=80=99re all different =
animals on different modification levels and the outcome is for a good part=
predictable.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p cl=
ass=3DMsoNormal>I=E2=80=99m only a guest in your and run what I get told. I=
don=E2=80=99t bother about tires. It just needs 4 wheels to make me happy,=
nothing else.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I don=E2=80=99t care abou=
t threads or not. I even drive on slicks in rain if necessary.<o:p></o:p></=
p><p class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I don=E2=
=80=99t know if the tires are already ordered but if they=E2=80=99re slicks=
, we cut them to make them fitting the rules.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoN=
ormal>If that not helps, we put WD40 on to make them slick.<o:p></o:p></p><=
p class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Cheers<o:p></=
o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Chris<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal> =
;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNor=
mal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E=
1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=
=3DDE>Von:</span></b><span lang=3DDE> Scott Janzen <<a href=3D"mailto:sj=
anzen@me.com">sjanzen@me.com</a>> <br><b>Gesendet:</b> Montag, 27. Juni =
2022 23:54<br><b>An:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com";>tr4rac=
ing@googlemail.com</a><br><b>Cc:</b> Jason Sukey <<a href=3D"mailto:jsuk=
ey@gmail.com">jsukey@gmail.com</a>>; Brian Dolan <<a href=3D"mailto:b=
dolan1776@gmail.com">bdolan1776@gmail.com</a>>; 'Friends of Triumph' Tri=
umph <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>><b=
r><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Tire Regulations</span><o:p></o:p><=
/p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNorm=
al>tire rules are generally per the sponsoring club for the event, as I und=
erstand it. VRG (and PVGP, who I believe uses the VRG tire rules) ha=
ve never allowed slicks, so they had to make an exception here. Howev=
er, it=E2=80=99s not enforced, so cars have been seen that go through tech =
with treaded tires, which may end up being raced with other tires - just sa=
yin! Tech is basically a safety process, not a rules enforcement - we=
are supposed to be self-policing. I think you=E2=80=99re seeing a pr=
etty good reaction here because of the late timing of the announcement, and=
also because many of the Triumph racers at this event run a lot of races w=
ith VRG and other east coast clubs that require treaded tires. It rea=
lly does put the cars on an unequal footing (no pun intended) and all other=
things being equal, the car on slicks will be significantly faster. =
We all know ways we could make our cars faster - wider wheels, spoilers, ai=
r dams, programmable ignition - but that=E2=80=99s not vintage.<o:p></o:p><=
/p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I for one am glad to see other interesting Tri=
umphs show up for the event, even if SCCA prepared - just factor the tires =
into who gets the awards. I personally feel that if you podium by 1-2=
seconds a lap on slicks, you=E2=80=99ve lost your bragging rights. <=
o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Just my 2 cents.<o:p></o:p></p></di=
v><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Scott<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On Jun 27, 2=
022, at 5:21 PM, Chris Marx via Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.ne=
t">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNorm=
al> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DDE>Just=
a question.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lan=
g=3DDE> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>When I w=
as part of the K-Cup in 2013 and 2019 there were cars on slicks in the K-Cu=
p race.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Has the rule been cha=
nged that slicks are not allowed anymore?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Cheers<o:=
p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Chris<o:p></o:p></p></div><div>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>&=
nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E=
1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=
=3DDE>Von:</span></b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space><span lang=3DDE>&n=
bsp;</span></span><span lang=3DDE>Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@aut=
ox.team.net">fot-bounces@autox.team.net</a>><span class=3Dapple-converte=
d-space> </span><b>Im Auftrag von<span class=3Dapple-converted-space>&=
nbsp;</span></b>Jason Sukey via Fot<br><b>Gesendet:</b><span class=3Dapple-=
converted-space> </span>Montag, 27. Juni 2022 19:49<br><b>An:</b><span=
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>Brian Dolan <<a href=3D"mail=
to:bdolan1776@gmail.com">bdolan1776@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b><span cl=
ass=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>Friends of Triumph <<a href=3D"=
mailto:Fot@autox.team.net";>Fot@autox.team.net</a>><br><b>Betreff:</b><sp=
an class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Tire Re=
gulations</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal> =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>The way I read it, trea=
ded slick racers are still competing for podiums during the K Cup races, bu=
t I could be mis-interpreting it.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=3D=
MsoNormal>Jason<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>&=
nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On Mon, Jun 2=
7, 2022 at 1:45 PM Brian Dolan via Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team=
=2Enet">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><blockq=
uote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0=
in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:=
5.0pt'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:4.8pt'>Seems lik=
e a reasonable compromise to allow more people to race, while setting stand=
ards for who can podium. <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:4.8pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><=
div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:4.8pt'>Am I missing some=
thing on that angle? <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DM=
soNormal style=3D'margin-left:4.8pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><=
div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:4.8pt'>On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 a=
t 1:39 PM Scott Janzen via Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; ta=
rget=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div=
><blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0=
in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin=
-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:9.6pt'>N=
ot good news for those of us who consistently run vintage, which typically =
requires treaded tires, and are not going to buy a set of R7s for this even=
t. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin=
-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:9.6pt'> =
;<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:9.6pt'>=
Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNorma=
l style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;mar=
gin-left:9.6pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><blockquote style=3D'margin-top:=
5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt=
:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:45.6pt'>On Jun 27, 2=
022, at 12:11 PM, Curt Johnston via Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.tea=
m.net" target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></=
blockquote></div><blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'=
><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:45.6pt'>=EF=BB=BF<span=
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:45.6pt'><span style=3D'font-size:=
12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333'>Its good news that=
we have nearly 40 cars registered for the Kastner Cup this year (39 as of =
today). But it would be great to be at 40 or more for the 20th Kastne=
r Cup!<span class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span></span><o:p></o:p></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:45.6pt'><=
span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33=
3333'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNorma=
l style=3D'margin-left:45.6pt'><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:=
"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333'>I wanted to share news about tires th=
at may have impacted some of our group that typically run on slick tires.&n=
bsp; PVGP has modified the "no slicks" rule for Triumphs. Y=
ou can run<span class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><strong><u><span=
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>grooved slick tires</span></u=
></strong><span class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>in the Kastner C=
up. You can also run these tires in the regular run groups, but you w=
ill not be eligible for any awards for podium recognition. For those =
that don't have tire options this will certainly help. <span class=3Da=
pple-converted-space> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><d=
iv><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:45.6pt'><span style=3D'font-si=
ze:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333'> </span><o=
:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-lef=
t:45.6pt'><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-seri=
f;color:#333333'>So if you're on the fence about attending this year for wh=
atever reason, please consider joining a huge 20th Kastner Cup at Pitt Race=
=2E <span class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span></span><o:p></o:p=
></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:45.6pt=
'><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:=
#333333'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal style=3D'margin-left:45.6pt'><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-fami=
ly:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333'>Regular entry fee is $595, plus $5=
0 for the Kastner Cup. <span class=3Dapple-converted-space> </spa=
n><strong><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>After July 1, =
the fee goes up to $645, so act now!</span></strong></span><o:p></o:p></p><=
/div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:45.6pt'><str=
ong><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;colo=
r:#333333'><a href=3D"https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/2022-pvgp-histor=
ics-at-pitt-race-pittsburgh-international-compl-vintage-771031" target=3D"_=
blank">2022 PVGP Historics at Pitt Race</a></span></strong><span style=3D'f=
ont-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333'><a href=
=3D"https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/2022-pvgp-historics-at-pitt-race-p=
ittsburgh-international-compl-vintage-771031" target=3D"_blank"><span class=
=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>(motorsportreg.com)</a></span><o:p></=
o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:45.=
6pt'><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;col=
or:#333333'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMs=
oNormal style=3D'margin-left:45.6pt'><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-f=
amily:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333'>Thanks.<span class=3Dapple-conv=
erted-space> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p cla=
ss=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:45.6pt'><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt=
;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333'> </span><o:p></o:p>=
</p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:45.6pt'=
><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#=
333333'>Curt Johnston<span class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span></spa=
n><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin=
-left:45.6pt'><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-=
serif;color:#333333'>Kastner Cup Race Committee Chair<span class=3Dapple-co=
nverted-space> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p c=
lass=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:45.6pt'><span style=3D'font-size:12.0=
pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333'><a href=3D"mailto:curt=
=2Ejohnston@comcast.net" target=3D"_blank">curt.johnston@comcast.net</a></s=
pan><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'marg=
in-left:45.6pt'><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",san=
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p;</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal s=
tyle=3D'margin-left:45.6pt'><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"He=
lvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div>=
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