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Amici, just a question, doesn=E2=80=99t copper dissipate heat better =
than aluminum ?
=20
Alex Camoletti=20
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De : Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] De la part de John H. Hasty =
via Fot
Envoy=C3=A9 : mardi 4 janvier 2022 02:12
=C3=80 : Dave Hogye
Cc : robert bownes; 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph
Objet : Re: [Fot] Aluminium radiators
=20
We get ours custom made without filler neck ... side hoses... etc from =
Howe... $ 350 +\-
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 3, 2022, at 7:21 PM, Dave Hogye via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> =
wrote:
=EF=BB=BF I have been using a Griffin aluminum radiator for over 8 years =
now. Also, nicely made and good fit in my TR3. I ordered it with a =
shroud and puller fan. $700 total. Radiator only, $500. =20
They will build custom. I ordered mine without the problematic or crack =
prone factory style extended filler neck. I fill it from an expansion =
tank.=20
Dave H.
=20
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 3, 2022, at 2:32 PM, Paul Ricco via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> =
wrote:
=EF=BB=BFFOT,=20
=20
We have good experiences with Wizard as well. They have been reliable =
and the quality is very good. As some people feel that oil coolers are =
a consumable a item, our research indicates the same may be true for =
aluminum radiators in cars with cast iron blocks. There are things that =
can be done to help them live for years. However, they eventually need =
to be replaced due to the relationship of cast iron, aluminum, water and =
electrical current. =20
=20
Also, I would say NEVER run any type of coolant stop leak product with =
an aluminum radiator, especially with an iron block. You will plug the =
radiator very-very quickly. Not to mention the mess the stops leaks =
product makes where your block and head ports are supposed to be able to =
move coolant. If you are swapping fluids, find the leak and fix it =
correctly.=20
=20
I am on year 5 with the last wizard that I purchased and it is still =
doing good.=20
=20
Paul Ricco
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 3, 2022, at 4:01 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> =
wrote:
=EF=BB=BFI got a custom radiator for the GT6 from Wizard a few months =
ago, and it is really beautiful craftsmanship. I had them duplicate the =
dimensions of one I got twelve years ago from an outfit that went out of =
business. They copied it perfectly. About a 6-8 week leadtime, maybe =
less if you are getting off-the-shelf.=20
=20
I will say that I=E2=80=99d had the prior one repaired a few times - =
they can be welded or sealed depending on where the damage is. The last =
time I did some serious damage to it, so it was truly irreparable.
=20
Much, much lighter than stock, too.
=20
Scott
=20
On Jan 3, 2022, at 4:05 PM, Robert Lang via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> =
wrote:
=20
There are a bunch of answers here, but a lot of TR6 crowd buys them from =
Wizard Radiator (www.wizardcooling.com)
=20
There's a guy on the Triumphs list - Art Lipp - that sells the Wizards =
at a discount.
=20
My one concern about aluminium radiators is that most of the time you =
can't fix them, so if you crack them, it's in the bin for 'em. Copper / =
brass is more forgiving. Ally does have the "wow" factor, though.
=20
c ya,
rml
=20
On Monday, January 3, 2022, 03:55:59 PM EST, robert bownes via Fot =
<fot@autox.team.net> wrote:=20
=20
=20
=20
Wise(ned) ones,
=20
Where are folks getting (street) Al radiators nowadays? Just got the =
original TR6 rad back from the local radiator shop with an estimate of =
~$360 to re-core, re-cap the lower end, and get rid of all the acorns =
the squirrels have thoughtfully stashed in mine, so I figure it's =
probably cheaper to get a new Al one than press my luck with the =
original.=20
=20
I found 3 row versions for a bit under $200, but they don't seem to know =
much about Triumphs (the pictures have the inlet/outlet pointing in the =
wrong directions) so I figured I'd check here...
=20
Stay fast!
Bob
=20
=20
=20
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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:12.5pt;font-family:"Garamond","serif"'>Amici, just a =
question, doesn=E2=80=99t copper dissipate heat better than aluminum =
?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:12.5pt;font-family:"Garamond","serif"'><o:p> </o:=
p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:12.5pt;font-family:"Garamond","serif"'>Alex Camoletti =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:12.5pt;font-family:"Garamond","serif"'><o:p> </o:=
p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:12.5pt;font-family:"Garamond","serif"'><o:p> </o:=
p></span></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DFR =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>De :</s=
pan></b><span lang=3DFR =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Fot =
[mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>De la part de</b> John H. Hasty =
via Fot<br><b>Envoy=C3=A9 :</b> mardi 4 janvier 2022 =
02:12<br><b>=C3=80 :</b> Dave Hogye<br><b>Cc :</b> robert =
bownes; 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph<br><b>Objet :</b> Re: [Fot] =
Aluminium radiators<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>We get ours custom made without filler =
neck ... side hoses... etc from Howe... $ 350 +\-<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Jan 3, 2022, at 7:21 PM, Dave Hogye =
via Fot <<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>=EF=BB=BF I have been using a Griffin aluminum =
radiator for over 8 years now. Also, nicely made and good fit in =
my TR3. I ordered it with a shroud and puller fan. $700 total. =
Radiator only, $500. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>They will build custom. I ordered mine without the =
problematic or crack prone factory style extended filler neck. I fill it =
from an expansion tank. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Dave H.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Jan 3, 2022, at 2:32 PM, Paul Ricco =
via Fot <<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>=EF=BB=BFFOT, <o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>We have good experiences with Wizard as well. They =
have been reliable and the quality is very good. As some people =
feel that oil coolers are a consumable a item, our research indicates =
the same may be true for aluminum radiators in cars with cast iron =
blocks. There are things that can be done to help them live for years. =
However, they eventually need to be replaced due to the relationship of =
cast iron, aluminum, water and electrical current. =
<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Also, I would say NEVER run any type of coolant stop =
leak product with an aluminum radiator, especially with an iron block. =
You will plug the radiator very-very quickly. Not to mention the =
mess the stops leaks product makes where your block and head ports are =
supposed to be able to move coolant. If you are swapping fluids, =
find the leak and fix it correctly. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
am on year 5 with the last wizard that I purchased and it is still doing =
good. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Paul Ricco<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Jan 3, 2022, at 4:01 PM, Scott Janzen =
via Fot <<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>=EF=BB=BFI got a custom radiator for the GT6 from =
Wizard a few months ago, and it is really beautiful craftsmanship. =
I had them duplicate the dimensions of one I got twelve years ago =
from an outfit that went out of business. They copied it =
perfectly. About a 6-8 week leadtime, maybe less if you are getting =
off-the-shelf. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
will say that I=E2=80=99d had the prior one repaired a few times - they =
can be welded or sealed depending on where the damage is. The last =
time I did some serious damage to it, so it was truly =
irreparable.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Much, much lighter than stock, =
too.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Scott<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On Jan =
3, 2022, at 4:05 PM, Robert Lang via Fot <<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>There =
are a bunch of answers here, but a lot of TR6 crowd buys them from =
Wizard Radiator (<a =
href=3D"http://www.wizardcooling.com";>www.wizardcooling.com</a>)<o:p></o:=
p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>There's =
a guy on the Triumphs list - Art Lipp - that sells the Wizards at a =
discount.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>My one =
concern about aluminium radiators is that most of the time you can't fix =
them, so if you crack them, it's in the bin for 'em. Copper / brass is =
more forgiving. Ally does have the "wow" factor, =
though.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>c =
ya,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>rml<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p></div></div><div =
id=3D"ydp530db442yahoo_quoted_1346791563"><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'>On Monday, January 3, 2022, 03:55:59 PM EST, robert bownes via Fot =
<<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>> =
wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div =
id=3Dydp530db442yiv1783638672><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'>Wise(ned) ones,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'>Where are folks getting (street) Al radiators nowadays? Just got =
the original TR6 rad back from the local radiator shop with an estimate =
of ~$360 to re-core, re-cap the lower end, and get rid of all the acorns =
the squirrels have thoughtfully stashed in mine, so I figure it's =
probably cheaper to get a new Al one than press my luck with the =
original. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'>I found 3 row versions for a bit under $200, but they don't seem to =
know much about Triumphs (the pictures have the inlet/outlet pointing in =
the wrong directions) so I figured I'd check =
here...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'>Stay fast!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'>Bob<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
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