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i have had numerous sets of pistons coated/recoated for competition use.
typically, my local vendor of such services says he wont add more than
0.002" so in that case, you are limited with what you can 'recondition"
using that system. It is described as "moly-teflon"
the coatings i've used will not 'fill in" deep scratches etc so the
machined finish on the piston needs to be near-perfect
when used on supercharger rotors, it is <0.001" thick
i have no personal experiences with the brand listed
Terry
On Thu, Oct 7, 2021 at 6:28 AM Chris Marx via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
wrote:
> See the photos of the Wiseco pistons with coating to overcome the
> shrinking.
>
>
>
> And the difference between Wiseco and Mahle.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* tr4racing@gmail.com <tr4racing@gmail.com>
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 21:54
> *An:* 'Bob Kramer' <rkramer56@gmail.com>
> *Cc:* 'fot@autox.team.net' <fot@autox.team.net>
> *Betreff:* AW: [Fot] abradable coatings
>
>
>
> I did this once with also a set of Wiseco pistons.
>
> I had cross scuffing on all 4 pistons, because the pistons expanded to
> much to the wrong direction.
>
> I did use the coated pistons and replaced them with Mahle custom made
> pistons, which are lighter and never scuffed .
>
> I use the Mahle set since 10 years now.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* Fot <fot-bounces@autox.team.net> *Im Auftrag von *Bob Kramer via
> Fot
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 17:27
> *An:* Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
> *Betreff:* [Fot] abradable coatings
>
>
>
> Has anyone used this company on a wet liner engine like a TR4? I have a
> set of scuffed Wieseco pistons that could be rescued with a skirt coating
> and the company says it will work.
>
>
>
> The coatings can be applied very thick and sometimes provide an
> interference fit when a device is assembled. During initial operation, th=
e
> coating breaks in to form a perfect fit between mating parts. Controlled
> abrasion even accounts for thermal and torque related distortions in
> components as the coating wears in. Once the optimum fit is achieved,
> stresses on the coating are reduced and the break-in process stops.
> Durable, low friction, anti-scuff properties of the coating maintain
> tighter operating clearances and higher efficiency for the life of the
> device.
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.line2linecoatings.com/
>
>
> Armor Clearance Control=E2=84=A2 (Armor CC=E2=84=A2)
> For building diametric thickness 0.002" to 0.020" - our hardest skirt
> coating.
>
>
>
> [image: Das Bild wurde vom Absender entfernt.] [image: Das Bild wurde vom
> Absender entfernt.]
>
>
>
> Extreme wear resistance provides lasting enlargement of piston skirt
> dimensions. Recommended for restoring clearances where they have opened u=
p
> from skirt collapse, wear, clean-up honing or other.
>
> Race proven durability in NHRA PRO-MOD. Coating can be topped with Slick
> CC=E2=84=A2 for the ultimate fit and lubricity.
>
> *Recommended for 2 strokes and 4 strokes.*
> ADVANTAGES:
>
> - *Restores and Holds Clearances*
>
>
> Bob Kramer
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<div dir=3D"ltr">i have had numerous sets of pistons coated/recoated for co=
mpetition use. typically, my local vendor of such services says he wont add=
more than 0.002"=C2=A0 so in that case, you are limited with what you=
can 'recondition" using that system. It is described as "mol=
y-teflon"<div><br></div><div>the coatings i've used will not '=
fill in" deep scratches=C2=A0etc so the machined finish=C2=A0on the pi=
ston needs to be near-perfect</div><div><br></div><div>when used on superch=
arger rotors, it is <0.001" thick<br><div><br></div><div>i have no =
personal experiences with the brand listed</div><div><br></div><div><div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"=
><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Terry<br><br></di=
v></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><=
/div><br></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Oct 7, 2021 at 6:28 AM Chris Marx via Fot <=
<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br>=
</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;b=
order-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US"=
style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class=3D"gmail-m_-20986069046420=
67595WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">See the photos of the Wiseco pist=
ons with coating to overcome the shrinking.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">And the difference =
between Wiseco and Mahle.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cheers<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal">Chris<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u><=
/u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><d=
iv><div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;bord=
er-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0cm 0cm"><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><b><span lang=3D"DE">Von:</span></b><span lang=3D"DE"> <a href=3D"mailto=
:tr4racing@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">tr4racing@gmail.com</a> <<a href=
=3D"mailto:tr4racing@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">tr4racing@gmail.com</a>&g=
t; <br><b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 21:54<br><b>An:</b> '=
Bob Kramer' <<a href=3D"mailto:rkramer56@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank=
">rkramer56@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> '<a href=3D"mailto:fot@auto=
x.team.net" target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>' <<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:fot@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>><br><b=
>Betreff:</b> AW: [Fot] abradable coatings<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></=
div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I=
did this once with also a set of Wiseco pistons.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">I had cross scuffing on all 4 pistons, because the pistons e=
xpanded to much to the wrong direction.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal">I did use the coated pistons and replaced them with Mahle custom made =
pistons, which are lighter and never scuffed .<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal">I use the Mahle set since 10 years now.<u></u><u></u></p><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cheers<u></=
u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Chris<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u><=
/p><div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;bord=
er-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0cm 0cm"><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><b><span lang=3D"DE">Von:</span></b><span lang=3D"DE"> Fot <<a href=
=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">fot-bounces@autox.=
team.net</a>> <b>Im Auftrag von </b>Bob Kramer via Fot<br><b>Gesendet:</=
b> Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 17:27<br><b>An:</b> Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:=
fot@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>><br><b>Betr=
eff:</b> [Fot] abradable coatings<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Has an=
yone used this company on a wet liner engine like a TR4? I have a set of sc=
uffed Wieseco=C2=A0pistons that could be rescued with a skirt coating and t=
he company says it will work.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(85,85=
,85);background:rgb(250,250,250)">The coatings can be applied very thick an=
d sometimes provide an interference fit when a device is assembled. During =
initial operation, the coating breaks in to form a perfect fit between mati=
ng parts. Controlled abrasion even accounts for thermal and torque related =
distortions in components as the coating wears in. Once the optimum fit is =
achieved, stresses on the coating are reduced and the break-in process stop=
s. Durable, low friction, anti-scuff properties of the coating maintain tig=
hter operating clearances and higher efficiency for the life of the device.=
</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u>=
</u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><di=
v><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://www.line2linecoatings.com/"; tar=
get=3D"_blank">https://www.line2linecoatings.com/</a><u></u><u></u></p></di=
v><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><h2 style=
=3D"margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:7.5pt;margin-left:0cm;line-height:30pt">=
<span style=3D"font-size:16.5pt;font-family:"Droid Sans",serif;co=
lor:rgb(64,64,64)">Armor Clearance Control=E2=84=A2 (Armor CC=E2=84=A2)<u><=
/u><u></u></span></h2><div style=3D"border:1pt solid white;padding:14pt;mar=
gin-top:15pt;margin-bottom:15pt;min-height:20px;border-radius:0px;outline:r=
gb(204,204,204) solid 1px"><h3 align=3D"center" style=3D"margin-right:0cm;m=
argin-bottom:7.5pt;margin-left:0cm;text-align:center;line-height:30pt;backg=
round:rgb(255,255,242)"><span style=3D"font-family:"Droid Sans",s=
erif;color:rgb(64,64,64)">For building diametric thickness 0.002" to 0=
.020" - our hardest skirt coating.<u></u><u></u></span></h3><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:rgb(255,255,242)"><span style=3D"color:b=
lack">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"center=
" style=3D"text-align:center;background:rgb(255,255,242)"><span style=3D"co=
lor:black;border:1pt solid windowtext;padding:0cm"><img border=3D"0" width=
=3D"100" height=3D"100" style=3D"width: 1.0416in; height: 1.0416in;" id=3D"=
gmail-m_-2098606904642067595Bild_x0020_1" src=3D"cid:17c5c682fa54ce8e91" al=
t=3D"Das Bild wurde vom Absender entfernt."></span><span style=3D"color:bla=
ck">=C2=A0<span style=3D"border:1pt solid windowtext;padding:0cm"><img bord=
er=3D"0" width=3D"100" height=3D"100" style=3D"width: 1.0416in; height: 1.0=
416in;" id=3D"gmail-m_-2098606904642067595Bild_x0020_2" src=3D"cid:17c5c682=
fa54ce8e91" alt=3D"Das Bild wurde vom Absender entfernt."></span></span><u>=
</u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:rgb(255,255,242)"=
><span style=3D"color:black">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p><p style=3D"mar=
gin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:7.5pt;margin-left:0cm;line-height:18pt;backgrou=
nd:rgb(255,255,242)"><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:Helvetica,san=
s-serif;color:rgb(85,85,85)">Extreme wear resistance provides lasting enlar=
gement of piston skirt dimensions. Recommended for restoring clearances whe=
re they have opened up from skirt collapse, wear, clean-up honing or other.=
<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style=3D"margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:7.5pt;m=
argin-left:0cm;line-height:18pt;background:rgb(255,255,242)"><span style=3D=
"font-size:9pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(85,85,85)">Race p=
roven durability in NHRA PRO-MOD. Coating can be topped with Slick CC=E2=84=
=A2 for the ultimate fit and lubricity.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style=3D=
"margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:7.5pt;margin-left:0cm;line-height:18pt;back=
ground:rgb(255,255,242)"><em><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:Helve=
tica,sans-serif;color:rgb(85,85,85)">Recommended for 2 strokes and 4 stroke=
s.</span></em><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif=
;color:rgb(85,85,85)"><u></u><u></u></span></p><h2 style=3D"margin-right:0c=
m;margin-bottom:7.5pt;margin-left:0cm;line-height:30pt;background:rgb(255,2=
55,242)"><span style=3D"font-size:16.5pt;font-family:"Droid Sans"=
,serif;color:rgb(64,64,64)">ADVANTAGES:<u></u><u></u></span></h2><ul style=
=3D"margin-top:0cm" type=3D"disc"><li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"color:rg=
b(85,85,85);margin-top:4.5pt;margin-bottom:4.5pt;line-height:15pt;backgroun=
d:rgb(255,255,242)"><strong><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:Helvet=
ica,sans-serif">Restores and Holds Clearances</span></strong><span style=3D=
"font-size:9pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></li>=
</ul></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br clear=3D"all"><u></u><u></u></p=
><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Bob Kramer<u></u><u></u></p></div></=
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