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I think Wurth products are sold to direct to the industry channel by route
jobbers. I used to get a buddy that owned a paint shop to buy some
product for me.
Bob Kramer
On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 7:25 AM Scott Janzen via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
wrote:
> interesting. A google search indicates this is available in Europe, but
> not sold directly in the US. As such, it=E2=80=99s pretty expensive here=
.
>
> Scott
>
> On Mar 4, 2020, at 5:59 AM, Enquiries Road & Track via Fot <
> fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> like most racers, ive had my fair share of leaking triumph heads and have
> tried copper rings, fancy gaskets, plain gaskets, magic goo etc etc.,
> with none of them totally fixing it
>
> unless the crankcase breather blocked, they never really leaked badly
> there when new (some weeped), so its mostly a result of all the stuff we
> do to them to make them go faster. certainly. facing 2-3mm off the head
> does not help, as the edge gets very thin and the clamp force over by the
> pushrods is not great on any of them, so its no wonder they leak at worst
> and weep at best . Ive concluded crankcase pressure build up is a big
> issue to be solved as others have discussed
>
> long ago, i changed to using multiple vents/breathers but the biggest
> improvement was using WURT 250 sealant on every joint , and my last race
> 2.5 is totally leak free, ie zero, not even a stain. BUT, no paper gasket=
s!!
>
> my "secret' is to follow WURT instructions and lay a tiny round bead on
> the block edge near the pushrods and let it 'skin'...about 10-15 minutes
> before fitting the head (just enough time for a cuppa). Do not finger it
> and try to smooth it out. By all means , fit the head with whatever
> "quality" gasket that your heart desires. For what its worth , i use a
> copper gasket and just re-anneal it every time. ive never found any spray
> or brush on sealant really works (or is needed) on a conventional head
> gasket, but some copper ones may benefit
>
> we used this WURT 250 sealant in our engine shop for years and all-but
> eliminated warranty claims for leaking gaskets. A version called WURT 250
> RED is great on triumph gearboxes, and overdrives, again, zero leaks if
> applied correctly. For the very best result, every surface must be washed
> with thinners or acetone, and not touched by hands etc thereafter. it ha=
s
> a limited shelf life of about a few weeks once opened , but we used tubes
> of it every week, so that was not an issue.
>
> i hope this might assist someone
>
> Terry
> (down under, but not quite as far "down" as geoff Byrne)
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I think Wurth products are sold to direct to the industry =
channel by route jobbers.=C2=A0 I used to get a buddy that=C2=A0 owned a pa=
int shop to buy some product for me.=C2=A0=C2=A0<div><br clear=3D"all"><div=
><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signatu=
re"><div dir=3D"ltr">Bob Kramer</div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 4, 2=
020 at 7:25 AM Scott Janzen via Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.ne=
t">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,20=
4);padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;">interesting.=
A google search indicates this is available in Europe, but not sold direct=
ly in the US.=C2=A0 As such, it=E2=80=99s pretty expensive here.<div><br></=
div><div>Scott<br><div><br><div>On Mar 4, 2020, at 5:59 AM, Enquiries Road =
& Track via Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_bl=
ank">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div =
dir=3D"ltr">like most racers, ive had my fair share of leaking triumph head=
s and have tried copper rings, fancy gaskets, plain gaskets, magic goo=C2=
=A0 etc etc.,=C2=A0 with none of them=C2=A0 totally fixing it=C2=A0<div><br=
></div><div>
unless the crankcase breather blocked,=C2=A0=20
they never really leaked badly there when new (some weeped),=C2=A0 so its=
=C2=A0mostly a result of all the stuff we do to them to make them go faster=
.=C2=A0 certainly. facing 2-3mm off the head does not help, as the edge get=
s very thin and=20
the clamp force over by the pushrods is not great on any of them, so its no=
wonder they leak at worst and weep at best=C2=A0
. Ive concluded crankcase pressure build up is a big issue to be solved as =
others have discussed<br><div><br></div><div></div><div>long ago, i changed=
to using=C2=A0 multiple=C2=A0vents/breathers but the biggest improvement=
=C2=A0was using WURT 250 sealant=C2=A0 on every joint , and my last race 2.=
5 is totally leak free, ie zero, not even a stain. BUT, no paper gaskets!!<=
br></div><div><br></div><div>my=C2=A0 "secret' is to follow WURT i=
nstructions and lay a tiny round bead on the block edge near the pushrods a=
nd let it 'skin'...about 10-15 minutes before fitting the head (jus=
t enough time for a cuppa). Do not finger it and try to smooth it out.=C2=
=A0 By all means , fit the head with whatever "quality" gasket th=
at your heart desires. For what its worth , i use a copper gasket and just =
re-anneal it every time. ive never found any spray or brush on sealant real=
ly works (or is needed) on a conventional head gasket,=C2=A0 but some coppe=
r ones may benefit</div><div><br></div><div>we used this WURT 250 sealant i=
n our engine shop for years and all-but eliminated warranty claims for leak=
ing gaskets. A version called WURT 250 RED is great on triumph gearboxes, a=
nd overdrives, again, zero leaks if applied correctly. For the very best re=
sult, every surface must be washed with thinners or acetone, and not touche=
d by hands etc=C2=A0 thereafter. it has a limited shelf life of about a few=
weeks once opened , but we used tubes of it every week, so that was not an=
issue.</div><div><br></div><div>i hope=C2=A0this might assist someone</div=
><div><br></div><div>Terry</div><div>(down under, but not quite as far &quo=
t;down" as geoff Byrne)=C2=A0</div><div><br></div></div></div><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0p=
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