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Re: [Fot] Six head gasket?

To: Scott Janzen <sjanzen@me.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Six head gasket?
From: James Palmer via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2020 08:44:00 -0500
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I think I found it on eBay, as long as it is WURTH 250, not WURT 250?  I ord=
ered  a tube  just in case, it was less than $15 delivered to the US from th=
e UK.

Sent from my iPad

> On Mar 4, 2020, at 8:25 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrot=
e:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BFinteresting. A google search indicates this is available in Europ=
e, but not sold directly in the US.  As such, it=E2=80=99s pretty expensive h=
ere.
>=20
> Scott
>=20
> On Mar 4, 2020, at 5:59 AM, Enquiries Road & Track via Fot <fot@autox.team=
.net> wrote:
>=20
> like most racers, ive had my fair share of leaking triumph heads and have t=
ried copper rings, fancy gaskets, plain gaskets, magic goo  etc etc.,  with n=
one of them  totally fixing it=20
>=20
> unless the crankcase breather blocked,  they never really leaked badly the=
re when new (some weeped),  so its mostly a result of all the stuff we do to=
 them to make them go faster.  certainly. facing 2-3mm off the head does not=
 help, as the edge gets very thin and the clamp force over by the pushrods i=
s not great on any of them, so its no wonder they leak at worst and weep at b=
est  . Ive concluded crankcase pressure build up is a big issue to be solved=
 as others have discussed
>=20
> long ago, i changed to using  multiple vents/breathers but the biggest imp=
rovement was using WURT 250 sealant  on every joint , and my last race 2.5 i=
s totally leak free, ie zero, not even a stain. BUT, no paper gaskets!!
>=20
> my  "secret' is to follow WURT instructions and lay a tiny round bead on t=
he block edge near the pushrods and let it 'skin'...about 10-15 minutes befo=
re fitting the head (just enough time for a cuppa). Do not finger it and try=
 to smooth it out.  By all means , fit the head with whatever "quality" gask=
et that your heart desires. For what its worth , i use a copper gasket and j=
ust re-anneal it every time. ive never found any spray or brush on sealant r=
eally works (or is needed) on a conventional head gasket,  but some copper o=
nes may benefit
>=20
> we used this WURT 250 sealant in our engine shop for years and all-but eli=
minated warranty claims for leaking gaskets. A version called WURT 250 RED i=
s great on triumph gearboxes, and overdrives, again, zero leaks if applied c=
orrectly. For the very best result, every surface must be washed with thinne=
rs or acetone, and not touched by hands etc  thereafter. it has a limited sh=
elf life of about a few weeks once opened , but we used tubes of it every we=
ek, so that was not an issue.
>=20
> i hope this might assist someone
>=20
> Terry
> (down under, but not quite as far "down" as geoff Byrne)=20
>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">I think I found it on eBay, as long as it i=
s WURTH 250, not WURT 250? &nbsp;I ordered &nbsp;a tube &nbsp;just in case, i=
t was less than $15 delivered to the US from the UK.<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>Sent from my iPad</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Ma=
r 4, 2020, at 8:25 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; wrote=
:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=
=BF<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8">=
interesting. A google search indicates this is available in Europe, but not s=
old directly in the US. &nbsp;As such, it=E2=80=99s pretty expensive here.<d=
iv class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Scott<br class=3D""><div>=
<br class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Mar 4, 2020, at 5:59 AM, Enquiries Road &a=
mp; Track via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; class=3D"">fot@a=
utox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><d=
iv class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">like m=
ost racers, ive had my fair share of leaking triumph heads and have tried co=
pper rings, fancy gaskets, plain gaskets, magic goo&nbsp; etc etc.,&nbsp; wi=
th none of them&nbsp; totally fixing it&nbsp;<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">=
</div><div class=3D"">

unless the crankcase breather blocked,&nbsp;=20

they never really leaked badly there when new (some weeped),&nbsp; so its&nb=
sp;mostly a result of all the stuff we do to them to make them go faster.&nb=
sp; certainly. facing 2-3mm off the head does not help, as the edge gets ver=
y thin and=20

the clamp force over by the pushrods is not great on any of them, so its no w=
onder they leak at worst and weep at best&nbsp;

. Ive concluded crankcase pressure build up is a big issue to be solved as o=
thers have discussed<br class=3D""><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div=
 class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">long ago, i changed to using&nbsp; multipl=
e&nbsp;vents/breathers but the biggest improvement&nbsp;was using WURT 250 s=
ealant&nbsp; on every joint , and my last race 2.5 is totally leak free, ie z=
ero, not even a stain. BUT, no paper gaskets!!<br class=3D""></div><div clas=
s=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">my&nbsp; "secret' is to follow W=
URT instructions and lay a tiny round bead on the block edge near the pushro=
ds and let it 'skin'...about 10-15 minutes before fitting the head (just eno=
ugh time for a cuppa). Do not finger it and try to smooth it out.&nbsp; By a=
ll means , fit the head with whatever "quality" gasket that your heart desir=
es. For what its worth , i use a copper gasket and just re-anneal it every t=
ime. ive never found any spray or brush on sealant really works (or is neede=
d) on a conventional head gasket,&nbsp; but some copper ones may benefit</di=
v><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">we used this WURT 250=
 sealant in our engine shop for years and all-but eliminated warranty claims=
 for leaking gaskets. A version called WURT 250 RED is great on triumph gear=
boxes, and overdrives, again, zero leaks if applied correctly. For the very b=
est result, every surface must be washed with thinners or acetone, and not t=
ouched by hands etc&nbsp; thereafter. it has a limited shelf life of about a=
 few weeks once opened , but we used tubes of it every week, so that was not=
 an issue.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">i hope&=
nbsp;this might assist someone</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><di=
v class=3D"">Terry</div><div class=3D"">(down under, but not quite as far "d=
own" as geoff Byrne)&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div></div><=
/div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m=
argin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:=
1ex"><br class=3D"">
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