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Len Renkenberger wrote an article a long time ago for the 6-Pack newsletter
showing how to do this without the factory tools, using polished bar stock
to set up to measure pinion depth. I've used his techniques for years with
great success.
Bob Kramer
On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 7:06 PM, John Styduhar via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
wrote:
> Barry, when you are measuring TR pinion depth, where are you measuring
> from and to? The TR3 manual only has the dimension from the front face o=
f
> the pinion to the center of the ring gear which would be impossible to
> measure directly with the pinion gear installed.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 5:28 PM barry rosenberg <britcars@bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
>
>> There is a factory set of tools that one uses to measure pinion depth
>> before taking a diff apart. Then you set the new pinion at the same dept=
h
>> plus or minus the number on the gear.
>>
>> Barry
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* John Styduhar via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
>> *To:* Greg Blake <gblake58tr3@icloud.com>
>> *Cc:* Triumph 'Friends of Triumph <fot@autox.team.net>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, September 9, 2018 5:12 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] Fwd: Crown and pinion gear break in
>>
>> The "92" is the "matched set" number and should correspond with the set
>> number on the ring gear. The other number is the difference in pinion
>> shimming from the "normal". Haha, what is normal?
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 8, 2018 at 12:33 AM Greg Blake via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Ok guys and gals.
>>
>> Here is a pic of the new pinion head. What do I do with the number on th=
e
>> pinion head?
>> [image: image1.jpeg]
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 7, 2018, at 1:07 PM, Bob Kramer <rkramer56@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I have a 4.88 ring and pinion in a box. My Triumph club is running the
>> VTR National near Austin next year and I've been volunteered to head up =
the
>> autocross. I think I'll build a diff with it and put it in the Beandito,
>> and sell tickets!
>>
>> Bob Kramer
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 8:37 AM, barry rosenberg via Fot <
>> fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>> Wasn't this the new set of gears? If so, they were new old stock from
>> England. They once belonged to Jim Ealy, who owned a black, 1966 TR4A ra=
ce
>> car. I bought his junk yard to get his race car and the gears were new i=
n
>> the box. I knew him since 1973 and he had the gears then. I had them unt=
il
>> recently. I would not think that back then there were cheap reproduction
>> gears available. He had 4:11, the 4:55 and 4:88 (great fun but useless).
>> The 4:11 went in the car when I sold it, the 4:88 were put in a locked d=
iff
>> and played with on the street; the 4:55 sat on a shelf for all those yea=
rs.
>> If the diff still had fluid in it, then it has to be improper set up,
>> unfortunately.
>>
>> Barry
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Greg Blake via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
>> *To:* Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
>> *Cc:* fot <fot@autox.team.net>
>> *Sent:* Friday, September 7, 2018 6:14 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] Fwd: Crown and pinion gear break in
>>
>> Thanks guys for all the feedback.
>>
>> So far I have only put the car in the air and pulled the cover. There is
>> ample evidence of excessive heat so something went wrong with my setup.
>>
>> I might get the chance to pull it all out of the car and take some
>> measurements on Sunday. Once I do, I=E2=80=99ll share my original setup =
notes and
>> what I measure upon disassembly.
>>
>> On a related note. I ordered a new gear set from Rimmer on Monday and it
>> arrived in Austin today, standard shipping. Amazing. Way faster than som=
e
>> of our domestic suppliers.
>>
>> This new gear set was supplied by Bastuck. Hopefully lasts a little
>> longer.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 6, 2018, at 7:41 AM, Rick Parent via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Looks like the pinion was way to deep.
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, September 6, 2018 6:38 AM, Bill via Fot <fot@autox.team.net=
>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I doubt if a break-in procedure could have prevented failure, but as
>> Marcel says, checking the temperature of the diff could have stopped the
>> damage. The likely culprits are incorrect engagement or bad parts, but
>> anything that heats the gears enough to cook the oil off the parts will
>> kill the gears. I had a close call with one of the gear sets I use.
>> Apparently I screwed up somewhere in checking fit=E2=80=94when I pulled =
the rear
>> end to assess the problem there was no backlash. I have a huge finned
>> differential cover so checking temperature doesn=E2=80=99t help, but I c=
ould feel
>> the car slowing quickly between shifts. Fortunately I wasn=E2=80=99t doi=
ng my usual
>> clutchless shifts and noticed the sudden deceleration every time I
>> disengaged the clutch. The gear teeth were slightly blued and the oil
>> smelled like a cesspool, but the gears were still usable once I did the
>> setup properly.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> > On Sep 5, 2018, at 1:48 AM, van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot <
>> fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Doorgestuurd bericht -----
>> > Van: "van mulders marcel" <van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be>
>> > Aan: "Greg Blake" <gblake58tr3@icloud.com>
>> > Verzonden: Woensdag 5 september 2018 10:47:59
>> > Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Crown and pinion gear break in
>> >
>> > I think it is good measure to check the heat of the differential casin=
g
>> after a few laps when the pinion and crownwheel are freshly mounted : wh=
en
>> the casing gets very hot, something is wrong : or the parts are bad or t=
hey
>> are mounted not correctly
>> > There are at least 2 manufactures of the TR parts, I forgot about the
>> names. As far as I know, used original parts are running cooler than som=
e
>> of the aftermarked parts. How was the noise of the diff? Did you notice =
the
>> smell during the first laps?
>> > Marcel
>> >
>> > ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
>> > Van: "fot" <fot@autox.team.net>
>> > Aan: "fot" <fot@autox.team.net>
>> > Verzonden: Woensdag 5 september 2018 03:25:39
>> > Onderwerp: [Fot] Crown and pinion gear break in
>> >
>> > I would love to here the FOT experience in breaking in new differentia=
l
>> gears. What has worked well for you in the past?
>> >
>> > Last weekend, I was running the TR3 at Hallett with a brand new 4.55
>> gear set and it failed. I probably got 30 laps total in 4 sessions on
>> track. I did not think to follow any set break in procedure with the gea=
rs
>> and I am wondering if that is why they failed.
>> >
>> > I am interested in the lists experience with brand new or new old stoc=
k
>> ring and pinion break in.
>> >
>> > Here is a pic of the failed set.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > [image/jpeg:image1.jpeg]
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Len Renkenberger wrote an article a long time ago for the =
6-Pack newsletter showing how to do this without the factory tools, using p=
olished bar stock to set up to measure pinion depth. I've used his tech=
niques for years with great=C2=A0success.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><=
br clear=3D"all"><div><div class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmai=
l_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Bob Kramer</div></div></div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 7:06 PM, John Styduha=
r via Fot <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; targe=
t=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-s=
ize:small">Barry, when you are measuring TR pinion depth, where are you mea=
suring from and to?=C2=A0 The TR3 manual only has the dimension from the fr=
ont face of the pinion to the center of the ring gear which would be imposs=
ible to measure directly with the pinion gear installed.=C2=A0 =C2=A0</div>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:smal=
l"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></d=
iv></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Sun, Sep 9, 201=
8 at 5:28 PM barry rosenberg <<a href=3D"mailto:britcars@bellsouth.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">britcars@bellsouth.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquot=
e class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc sol=
id;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"color:#000;background-color:#fff;fo=
nt-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size=
:13px"><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"m_-4901775303274922524m_1359472020569513798m_=
-3544020503911685817yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1536526013624_12402"><span id=3D"m_-4=
901775303274922524m_1359472020569513798m_-3544020503911685817yui_3_16_0_ym1=
9_1_1536526013624_12401">There is a factory set of tools that one uses to m=
easure pinion depth before taking a diff apart. Then you set the new pinion=
at the same depth plus or minus the number on the gear.</span></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr" id=3D"m_-4901775303274922524m_1359472020569513798m_-354402050391=
1685817yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1536526013624_12404"><span><br></span></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr" id=3D"m_-4901775303274922524m_1359472020569513798m_-354402050391=
1685817yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1536526013624_12407"><span>Barry</span></div><div =
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tdSeparateBR" id=3D"m_-4901775303274922524m_1359472020569513798m_-354402050=
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5817yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1536526013624_12469" style=3D"display:block"> <div s=
tyle=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif=
;font-size:13px" id=3D"m_-4901775303274922524m_1359472020569513798m_-354402=
0503911685817yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1536526013624_12468"> <div style=3D"font-fam=
ily:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;f=
ont-size:16px" id=3D"m_-4901775303274922524m_1359472020569513798m_-35440205=
03911685817yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1536526013624_12467"> <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"m=
_-4901775303274922524m_1359472020569513798m_-3544020503911685817yui_3_16_0_=
ym19_1_1536526013624_12466"> <font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> <hr size=3D"1=
"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> John Styduhar via F=
ot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.te=
am.net</a>><br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Greg =
Blake <<a href=3D"mailto:gblake58tr3@icloud.com"; target=3D"_blank">gblak=
e58tr3@icloud.com</a>> <br><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Cc:</span=
></b> Triumph 'Friends of Triumph <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.=
net" target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>><br> <b><span style=3D"fon=
t-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, September 9, 2018 5:12 PM<br> <b><s=
pan style=3D"font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Fot] Fwd: Crown and=
pinion gear break in<br> </font> </div> <div class=3D"m_-49017753032749225=
24m_1359472020569513798m_-3544020503911685817y_msg_container" id=3D"m_-4901=
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-3544020503911685817yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1536526013624_12471"><div class=3D"m_=
-4901775303274922524m_1359472020569513798m_-3544020503911685817yiv060485533=
5gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">The "92" is the "m=
atched set" number and should correspond with the set number on the ri=
ng gear.=C2=A0 The other number is the difference in pinion shimming from t=
he "normal".=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Haha, what is normal?</div><div class=
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4855335gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small" id=3D"m_-490177530327492252=
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_12470"><br clear=3D"none"></div></div><br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"m_-=
4901775303274922524m_1359472020569513798m_-3544020503911685817yiv0604855335=
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911685817yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1536526013624_12476"><div class=3D"m_-4901775303=
274922524m_1359472020569513798m_-3544020503911685817yiv0604855335yqt8106787=
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472020569513798m_-3544020503911685817yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1536526013624_12475"=
>On Sat, Sep 8, 2018 at 12:33 AM Greg Blake via Fot <<a rel=3D"nofollow"=
shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">fot@au=
tox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote class=3D"m_=
-4901775303274922524m_1359472020569513798m_-3544020503911685817yiv060485533=
5gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding=
-left:1ex" id=3D"m_-4901775303274922524m_1359472020569513798m_-354402050391=
1685817yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1536526013624_12480"><div id=3D"m_-490177530327492=
2524m_1359472020569513798m_-3544020503911685817yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1536526013=
624_12479">Ok guys and gals.=C2=A0<div id=3D"m_-4901775303274922524m_135947=
2020569513798m_-3544020503911685817yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1536526013624_12478"><=
br clear=3D"none"></div><div id=3D"m_-4901775303274922524m_1359472020569513=
798m_-3544020503911685817yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1536526013624_12487">Here is a p=
ic of the new pinion head. What do I do with the number on the pinion head?=
=C2=A0</div><div><img id=3D"m_-4901775303274922524m_1359472020569513798m_-3=
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0-3D743DEB9A62" alt=3D"image1.jpeg"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Thanks.=
=C2=A0</div><div id=3D"m_-4901775303274922524m_1359472020569513798m_-354402=
0503911685817yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1536526013624_12490"><br clear=3D"none"><br =
clear=3D"none"><div id=3D"m_-4901775303274922524m_1359472020569513798m_-354=
4020503911685817yiv0604855335m_-3671314450992527492AppleMailSignature">Sent=
from my iPhone</div><div id=3D"m_-4901775303274922524m_1359472020569513798=
m_-3544020503911685817yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1536526013624_12489"><br clear=3D"n=
one">On Sep 7, 2018, at 1:07 PM, Bob Kramer <<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=
=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:rkramer56@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">rkramer56@g=
mail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div><blockqu=
ote type=3D"cite" id=3D"m_-4901775303274922524m_1359472020569513798m_-35440=
20503911685817yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1536526013624_12496"><div id=3D"m_-49017753=
03274922524m_1359472020569513798m_-3544020503911685817yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_153=
6526013624_12495"><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"m_-4901775303274922524m_1359472020=
569513798m_-3544020503911685817yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1536526013624_12494">I hav=
e a 4.88 ring and pinion in a box. My Triumph club is running the VTR Natio=
nal near Austin next year and I've been volunteered to head up the auto=
cross. I think I'll build a diff with it and put it in the Beandito, an=
d sell tickets!=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"m_-4901775303274922524m_1359472020=
569513798m_-3544020503911685817yiv0604855335gmail_extra" id=3D"m_-490177530=
3274922524m_1359472020569513798m_-3544020503911685817yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1536=
526013624_12502"><br clear=3D"all"><div><div class=3D"m_-490177530327492252=
4m_1359472020569513798m_-3544020503911685817yiv0604855335m_-367131445099252=
7492gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Bob Kramer</div></div></div>
<br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"m_-4901775303274922524m_135947202056951379=
8m_-3544020503911685817yiv0604855335gmail_quote" id=3D"m_-49017753032749225=
24m_1359472020569513798m_-3544020503911685817yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_153652601362=
4_12501">On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 8:37 AM, barry rosenberg via Fot <span dir=
=3D"ltr"><<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.te=
am.net" target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>></span> wrote:<br clear=
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_-3544020503911685817yiv0604855335gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;b=
order-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex" id=3D"m_-4901775303274922524m_1=
359472020569513798m_-3544020503911685817yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1536526013624_125=
00"><div id=3D"m_-4901775303274922524m_1359472020569513798m_-35440205039116=
85817yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1536526013624_12499"><div style=3D"color:#000;backgr=
ound-color:#fff;font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sa=
ns-serif;font-size:13px" id=3D"m_-4901775303274922524m_1359472020569513798m=
_-3544020503911685817yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1536526013624_12498"><div id=3D"m_-4=
901775303274922524m_1359472020569513798m_-3544020503911685817yiv0604855335m=
_-3671314450992527492m_-6928659416193145832yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1536326086781_=
12427"><span id=3D"m_-4901775303274922524m_1359472020569513798m_-3544020503=
911685817yiv0604855335m_-3671314450992527492m_-6928659416193145832yui_3_16_=
0_ym19_1_1536326086781_12426">Wasn't this the new set of gears? If so, =
they were new old stock from England. They once belonged to Jim Ealy, who o=
wned a black, 1966 TR4A race car. I bought his junk yard to get his race ca=
r and the gears were new in the box. I knew him since 1973 and he had the g=
ears then. I had them until recently. I would not think that back then ther=
e were cheap reproduction gears available. He had 4:11, the 4:55 and 4:88 (=
great fun but useless). The 4:11 went in the car when I sold it, the 4:88 w=
ere put in a locked diff and played with on the street; the 4:55 sat on a s=
helf for all those years. If the diff still had fluid in it, then it has to=
be improper set up, unfortunately.</span></div><div id=3D"m_-4901775303274=
922524m_1359472020569513798m_-3544020503911685817yiv0604855335m_-3671314450=
992527492m_-6928659416193145832yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1536326086781_12427"><span=
><br clear=3D"none"></span></div><div id=3D"m_-4901775303274922524m_1359472=
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8659416193145832yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1536326086781_12427"><span>Barry</span></=
div><div class=3D"m_-4901775303274922524m_1359472020569513798m_-35440205039=
11685817yiv0604855335m_-3671314450992527492m_-6928659416193145832qtdSeparat=
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r id=3D"m_-4901775303274922524m_1359472020569513798m_-3544020503911685817yi=
v0604855335m_-3671314450992527492m_-6928659416193145832yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_15=
36326086781_12441" size=3D"1"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">From:</s=
pan></b> Greg Blake via Fot <<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"=
mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; id=3D"m_-4901775303274922524m_135947202056951379=
8m_-3544020503911685817yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1536526013624_12509" target=3D"_bl=
ank">fot@autox.team.net</a>><br clear=3D"none"> <b><span style=3D"font-w=
eight:bold">To:</span></b> Fot <<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" href=
=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>>=
<br clear=3D"none"><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> fot =
<<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; t=
arget=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>><br clear=3D"none"> <b><span sty=
le=3D"font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Friday, September 7, 2018 6:14 AM<=
br clear=3D"none"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> =
Re: [Fot] Fwd: Crown and pinion gear break in<br clear=3D"none"> </div> <=
div class=3D"m_-4901775303274922524m_1359472020569513798m_-3544020503911685=
817yiv0604855335m_-3671314450992527492m_-6928659416193145832y_msg_container=
" id=3D"m_-4901775303274922524m_1359472020569513798m_-3544020503911685817yi=
v0604855335m_-3671314450992527492m_-6928659416193145832yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_15=
36326086781_13039"><br clear=3D"none"><div id=3D"m_-4901775303274922524m_13=
59472020569513798m_-3544020503911685817yiv0604855335m_-3671314450992527492m=
_-6928659416193145832yiv8608138712"><div id=3D"m_-4901775303274922524m_1359=
472020569513798m_-3544020503911685817yiv0604855335m_-3671314450992527492m_-=
6928659416193145832yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1536326086781_13040">Thanks guys for a=
ll the feedback.=C2=A0<div id=3D"m_-4901775303274922524m_135947202056951379=
8m_-3544020503911685817yiv0604855335m_-3671314450992527492m_-69286594161931=
45832yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1536326086781_13041"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div i=
d=3D"m_-4901775303274922524m_1359472020569513798m_-3544020503911685817yiv06=
04855335m_-3671314450992527492m_-6928659416193145832yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_15363=
26086781_13042">So far I have only put the car in the air and pulled the co=
ver. There is ample evidence of excessive heat so something went wrong with=
my setup.=C2=A0</div><div id=3D"m_-4901775303274922524m_135947202056951379=
8m_-3544020503911685817yiv0604855335m_-3671314450992527492m_-69286594161931=
45832yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1536326086781_13043"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div i=
d=3D"m_-4901775303274922524m_1359472020569513798m_-3544020503911685817yiv06=
04855335m_-3671314450992527492m_-6928659416193145832yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_15363=
26086781_13044">I might get the chance to pull it all out of the car and ta=
ke some measurements on Sunday. Once I do, I=E2=80=99ll share my original s=
etup notes and what I measure upon disassembly.</div><div id=3D"m_-49017753=
03274922524m_1359472020569513798m_-3544020503911685817yiv0604855335m_-36713=
14450992527492m_-6928659416193145832yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1536326086781_13045">=
<br clear=3D"none"></div><div id=3D"m_-4901775303274922524m_135947202056951=
3798m_-3544020503911685817yiv0604855335m_-3671314450992527492m_-69286594161=
93145832yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1536326086781_13046">On a related note. I ordered=
a new gear set from Rimmer on Monday and it arrived in Austin today, stand=
ard shipping. Amazing. Way faster than some of our domestic suppliers.=C2=
=A0</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>This new gear set was supplied =
by Bastuck. Hopefully lasts a little longer. =C2=A0</div><div id=3D"m_-4901=
775303274922524m_1359472020569513798m_-3544020503911685817yui_3_16_0_ym19_1=
_1536526013624_12515"><br clear=3D"none"><div id=3D"m_-4901775303274922524m=
_1359472020569513798m_-3544020503911685817yiv0604855335m_-36713144509925274=
92m_-6928659416193145832yiv8608138712AppleMailSignature">Sent from my iPhon=
e</div><div class=3D"m_-4901775303274922524m_1359472020569513798m_-35440205=
03911685817yiv0604855335m_-3671314450992527492m_-6928659416193145832yiv8608=
138712yqt3328800303" id=3D"m_-4901775303274922524m_1359472020569513798m_-35=
44020503911685817yiv0604855335m_-3671314450992527492m_-6928659416193145832y=
iv8608138712yqt60981"><div><br clear=3D"none">On Sep 6, 2018, at 7:41 AM, R=
ick Parent via Fot <<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:fo=
t@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br cl=
ear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote type=3D"cite" id=3D"m_-49=
01775303274922524m_1359472020569513798m_-3544020503911685817yui_3_16_0_ym19=
_1_1536526013624_12523"><div id=3D"m_-4901775303274922524m_1359472020569513=
798m_-3544020503911685817yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1536526013624_12522"><div style=
=3D"color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,A=
rial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:13px" id=3D"m_-4901775303274922524m=
_1359472020569513798m_-3544020503911685817yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1536526013624_1=
2521"><div id=3D"m_-4901775303274922524m_1359472020569513798m_-354402050391=
1685817yiv0604855335m_-3671314450992527492m_-6928659416193145832yiv86081387=
12yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1536237470748_10096"><span id=3D"m_-4901775303274922524=
m_1359472020569513798m_-3544020503911685817yiv0604855335m_-3671314450992527=
492m_-6928659416193145832yiv8608138712yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1536237470748_10136=
">Looks like the pinion was way to deep.</span></div> <div class=3D"m_-4901=
775303274922524m_1359472020569513798m_-3544020503911685817yiv0604855335m_-3=
671314450992527492m_-6928659416193145832yiv8608138712qtdSeparateBR"><br cle=
ar=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"m_-4901775303274922524m_=
1359472020569513798m_-3544020503911685817yiv0604855335m_-367131445099252749=
2m_-6928659416193145832yiv8608138712yahoo_quoted" style=3D"display:block" i=
d=3D"m_-4901775303274922524m_1359472020569513798m_-3544020503911685817yui_3=
_16_0_ym19_1_1536526013624_12520"> <div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue=
,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:13px" id=3D"m_-49017753=
03274922524m_1359472020569513798m_-3544020503911685817yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_153=
6526013624_12519"> <div style=3D"font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,H=
elvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px" id=3D"m_-4901775303=
274922524m_1359472020569513798m_-3544020503911685817yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_15365=
26013624_12518"> <div dir=3D"ltr"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> On Thurs=
day, September 6, 2018 6:38 AM, Bill via Fot <<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=
=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.te=
am.net</a>> wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></font></div> <br clear=3D"none"><=
br clear=3D"none"> <div class=3D"m_-4901775303274922524m_135947202056951379=
8m_-3544020503911685817yiv0604855335m_-3671314450992527492m_-69286594161931=
45832yiv8608138712y_msg_container" id=3D"m_-4901775303274922524m_1359472020=
569513798m_-3544020503911685817yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1536526013624_12517"><div =
dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"m_-4901775303274922524m_1359472020569513798m_-35440205039=
11685817yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1536526013624_12516">I doubt if a break-in proced=
ure could have prevented failure, but as Marcel says, checking the temperat=
ure of the diff could have stopped the damage. The likely culprits are inco=
rrect engagement or bad parts, but anything that heats the gears enough to =
cook the oil off the parts will kill the gears. I had a close call with one=
of the gear sets I use. Apparently I screwed up somewhere in checking fit=
=E2=80=94when I pulled the rear end to assess the problem there was no back=
lash. I have a huge finned differential cover so checking temperature doesn=
=E2=80=99t help, but I could feel the car slowing quickly between shifts. F=
ortunately I wasn=E2=80=99t doing my usual clutchless shifts and noticed th=
e sudden deceleration every time I disengaged the clutch. The gear teeth we=
re slightly blued and the oil smelled like a cesspool, but the gears were s=
till usable once I did the setup properly. <br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"=
none">Bill<br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none">> On Sep 5, 2018, at 1:=
48 AM, van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot <<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect"=
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a=
>> wrote:<br clear=3D"none">> <br clear=3D"none">> <br clear=3D"no=
ne">> <br clear=3D"none">> ----- Doorgestuurd bericht -----<br clear=
=3D"none">> Van: "van mulders marcel" <<a rel=3D"nofollow" =
shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be"; target=3D"_bla=
nk">van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be</a><wbr>><br clear=3D"none">> Aan: =
"Greg Blake" <<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailt=
o:gblake58tr3@icloud.com" target=3D"_blank">gblake58tr3@icloud.com</a>><=
br clear=3D"none">> Verzonden: Woensdag 5 september 2018 10:47:59<br cle=
ar=3D"none">> Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Crown and pinion gear break in<br cle=
ar=3D"none">> <br clear=3D"none">> I think it is good measure to chec=
k the heat of the differential casing after a few laps when the pinion and =
crownwheel are freshly mounted : when the casing gets very hot, something i=
s wrong : or the parts are bad or they are mounted not correctly<br clear=
=3D"none">> There are at least 2 manufactures of the TR parts, I forgot =
about the names. As far as I know, used original parts are running cooler t=
han some of the aftermarked parts. How was the noise of the diff? Did you n=
otice the smell during the first laps?<br clear=3D"none">> Marcel<br cle=
ar=3D"none">> <br clear=3D"none">> ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----=
<br clear=3D"none">> Van: "fot" <<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=
=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.te=
am.net</a>><br clear=3D"none">> Aan: "fot" <<a rel=3D"no=
follow" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank"=
>fot@autox.team.net</a>><br clear=3D"none">> Verzonden: Woensdag 5 se=
ptember 2018 03:25:39<br clear=3D"none">> Onderwerp: [Fot] Crown and pin=
ion gear break in<br clear=3D"none">> <br clear=3D"none">> I would lo=
ve to here the FOT experience in breaking in new differential gears. What h=
as worked well for you in the past?=C2=A0 <br clear=3D"none">> <br clear=
=3D"none">> Last weekend, I was running the TR3 at Hallett with a brand =
new 4.55 gear set and it failed. I probably got 30 laps total in 4 sessions=
on track. I did not think to follow any set break in procedure with the ge=
ars and I am wondering if that is why they failed. <br clear=3D"none">> =
<br clear=3D"none">> I am interested in the lists experience with brand =
new or new old stock ring and pinion break in. <br clear=3D"none">> <br =
clear=3D"none">> Here is a pic of the failed set. <br clear=3D"none">>=
; <br clear=3D"none">> <br clear=3D"none">> <br clear=3D"none">> [=
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