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Re: [Fot] variation in Timken carrier bearing width?

To: "'Aaron Johnson'" <hpspitfire@gmail.com>, "'Jason Sukey'" <jsukey@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] variation in Timken carrier bearing width?
From: "Ashley Page" <apage@prosystembrakes.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2016 11:32:47 -0400
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Ive seen it in my work too, but did not realize how big a problem its =
become. Not only Timken but other top brands as well. Thanks Aaron.

https://thecounterfeitreport.com/product/271/Timken-Bearings.html

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From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Aaron Johnson
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 10:22 PM
To: Jason Sukey <jsukey@gmail.com>
Cc: FOT list <fot@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] variation in Timken carrier bearing width?

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How did you order the bearings?    There is a huge counterfit bearing =
manufacturing market.   I have lost count how many times over the last 6 =
years I've had to investigate them.  The last set of ball bearings I =
bought were skf but we're obviously not legitimate.  I took it with me =
to skf on a visit and confirmed it was not made in any of their =
factories. =20

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If you've got concerns of counterfit bearings send me some pictures and =
I can help.=20

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Aaron

Sent from my iPhone


On 29-Sep-2016, at 10:29 PM, Jason Sukey <jsukey@gmail.com =

John,

        Replacing the old bearings because they were worn out.  New =
Timkens seem to be the best available option.

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Jason

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On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 12:52 PM, John Styduhar <johnstydo@gmail.com =

Some of the USA-stamped Timkens even look cheap when you compare them to =
the England-made.  I wouldn't be surprised if they were made overseas. =
If there is nothing wrong with your old bearings, why replace them?

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On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Jason Sukey <jsukey@gmail.com =

Has anyone else noticed rather large variation in carrier bearing =
width's when rebuilding a spitfire differential?  The one I'm building =
right now, I've replaced what I suspect are the original bearings =
(Timken England) with brand new Timken USA bearings.  In order to reach =
the required .004" preload, it will require .012" LESS total shim than =
what was in there originally.  That seems like a big difference with the =
only variable being new bearings.  I'm using the same housing, same =
carrier, the bearings visually look to be fully pressed home.  Anyone =
else experience this?

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Thanks,

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Jason Sukey

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>Ive seen it in my work too, but did not realize how big a problem its =
become. Not only Timken but other top brands as well. Thanks =
Aaron.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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><a =
href=3D"https://thecounterfeitreport.com/product/271/Timken-Bearings.html=
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/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Aaron =
Johnson<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 29, 2016 10:22 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> Jason Sukey &lt;jsukey@gmail.com&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> FOT =
list &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] variation =
in Timken carrier bearing width?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>How did =
you order the bearings? &nbsp; &nbsp;There is a huge counterfit bearing =
manufacturing market. &nbsp; I have lost count how many times over the =
last 6 years I've had to investigate them. &nbsp;The last set of ball =
bearings I bought were skf but we're obviously not legitimate. &nbsp;I =
took it with me to skf on a visit and confirmed it was not made in any =
of their factories. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div =
id=3DAppleMailSignature><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div =
id=3DAppleMailSignature><p class=3DMsoNormal>If you've got concerns of =
counterfit bearings send me some pictures and I can =
help.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div id=3DAppleMailSignature><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div =
id=3DAppleMailSignature><p class=3DMsoNormal>Aaron<br><br>Sent from my =
iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On 29-Sep-2016, at 10:29 PM, Jason =
Sukey &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jsukey@gmail.com";>jsukey@gmail.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>John,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Replacing the old bearings because they were worn =
out.&nbsp; New Timkens seem to be the best available =
option.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Jason<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On Thu, =
Sep 29, 2016 at 12:52 PM, John Styduhar &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:johnstydo@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">johnstydo@gmail.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid =
#CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Some of the USA-stamped Timkens even look cheap when =
you compare them to the England-made.&nbsp; I wouldn't be surprised if =
they were made overseas. If there is nothing wrong with your old =
bearings, why replace them?<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Jason Sukey &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:jsukey@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">jsukey@gmail.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Has anyone else noticed rather large variation in =
carrier bearing width's when rebuilding a spitfire differential?&nbsp; =
The one I'm building right now, I've replaced what I suspect are the =
original bearings (Timken England) with brand new Timken USA =
bearings.&nbsp; In order to reach the required .004&quot; preload, it =
will require .012&quot; LESS total shim than what was in there =
originally.&nbsp; That seems like a big difference with the only =
variable being new bearings.&nbsp; I'm using the same housing, same =
carrier, the bearings visually look to be fully pressed home.&nbsp; =
Anyone else experience this?<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Jason Sukey<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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