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John (and Bill),
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Thanks for the good/bad news. I=E2=80=99ve been sitting on (what I =
thought was) a set of very nice TR4 trunnions and vertical links and =
just found out (Thanks Bill!) that they are TR6 parts. That adds a =
little complexity. I thought I just needed a rebuild kit. I need more =
parts. I will likely be sticking with the TR6 parts, as the most =
equitable solution because I have a nice set of original TR6 trunnions =
to work with. =20
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For those reading and wondering why I am looking at doing this in the =
spring/summer season instead of the fall, my 21 year old son, who had =
put =E2=80=9Cdibs=E2=80=9D on the car when I am ready to give it up =
needs to learn how to work on it. He is home from college for the =
summer with a local internship. He is going to learn how to work on the =
TR3 and the front end is a good task that has been put off for a while. =
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I greatly appreciate all of the help,
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Jack
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From: John Styduhar [mailto:johnstydo@gmail.com]=20
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 3:37 AM
To: Jack Brooks <JIBrooks@live.com>
Cc: Triumph 'Friends of Triumph <fot@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 front end conversion to TR6 parts: Camber - =
moving the ball joint inward
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Jack, if you are going to do this conversion you will also need to =
acquire the later model lower control arms (or modify your lower control =
arms if possible) because the trunnion assembly for a TR6 uses a thru =
bolt and not the shaft type on the earlier TRs. You will also need to =
retrofit the inner lower control arm bushings from the later model onto =
the TR3 mounting points. Everything will bolt together.=20
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On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 1:34 AM, Jack Brooks <JIBrooks@live.com =
I am hoping to upgrade the front suspension on my (street/AutoX) TR3 =
this summer by changing out the upper A-arm, vertical link and trunnion =
to TR6 parts. I will use =E2=80=9Cthe=E2=80=9D Jag ball joint and shim =
it as required. Due to the complexity of shortening the upper A-arm or =
moving the inner pivot point inward, I am considering welding an =
extension to the upper A-Arm ball joint mounting tabs on the inside to =
mount the ball joint further inward and produce a similar result to =
shortening the A-arm. I have not removed my TR3 A-Arms yet, but it =
appears there is room to move the ball joint inward at least an inch in =
this way. I know I can=E2=80=99t go as far as those of you who have =
shortened the upper arms, but it seems like it could be a decent =
compromise. I am concerned though, as this seems too easy. None of you =
guys have done it. Instead you have shortening the upper arms which, =
from what I have read, is challenging, as is moving the inner pivot =
point and retaining substantial structure.
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So, the question is. . . . . . . Why is simply moving the ball joint =
further inboard not a good solution? What am I missing?
Thanks in advance,
=20
Jack
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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>John (and Bill),<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Thanks for the good/bad =
news.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99ve been sitting on (what I thought was) a set of =
very nice TR4 trunnions and vertical links and just found out (Thanks =
Bill!) that they are TR6 parts. That adds a little complexity.=C2=A0 I =
thought I just needed a rebuild kit.=C2=A0 I need more parts.=C2=A0 I =
will likely be sticking with the TR6 parts, as the most equitable =
solution because I have a nice set of original TR6 trunnions to work =
with.=C2=A0 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>For those reading and =
wondering why I am looking at doing this in the spring/summer season =
instead of the fall, my 21 year old son, who had put =
=E2=80=9Cdibs=E2=80=9D on the car when I am ready to give it up needs to =
learn how to work on it.=C2=A0 He is home from college for the summer =
with a local internship.=C2=A0 He is going to learn how to work on the =
TR3 and the front end is a good task that has been put off for a =
while.=C2=A0 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>I greatly appreciate all =
of the help,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Jack<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
John Styduhar [mailto:johnstydo@gmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, May =
22, 2016 3:37 AM<br><b>To:</b> Jack Brooks =
<JIBrooks@live.com><br><b>Cc:</b> Triumph 'Friends of Triumph =
<fot@autox.team.net><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] TR3 front end =
conversion to TR6 parts: Camber - moving the ball joint =
inward<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Jack, if you are going to do this conversion you will =
also need to acquire the later model lower control arms (or modify your =
lower control arms if possible) because the trunnion assembly for a TR6 =
uses a thru bolt and not the shaft type on the earlier TRs. You =
will also need to retrofit the inner lower control arm bushings from the =
later model onto the TR3 mounting points. Everything will bolt =
together. <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On Sat, =
May 21, 2016 at 1:34 AM, Jack Brooks <<a =
href=3D"mailto:JIBrooks@live.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">JIBrooks@live.com</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid =
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6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I am hoping =
to upgrade the front suspension on my (street/AutoX) TR3 this summer by =
changing out the upper A-arm, vertical link and trunnion to TR6 =
parts. I will use =E2=80=9Cthe=E2=80=9D Jag ball joint and shim it =
as required. Due to the complexity of shortening the upper A-arm =
or moving the inner pivot point inward, I am considering welding an =
extension to the upper A-Arm ball joint mounting tabs on the inside to =
mount the ball joint further inward and produce a similar result to =
shortening the A-arm. I have not removed my TR3 A-Arms yet, but it =
appears there is room to move the ball joint inward at least an inch in =
this way. I know I can=E2=80=99t go as far as those of you who =
have shortened the upper arms, but it seems like it could be a decent =
compromise. I am concerned though, as this seems too easy. =
None of you guys have done it. Instead you have shortening the upper =
arms which, from what I have read, is challenging, as is moving the =
inner pivot point and retaining substantial structure.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>So, the question =
is. . . . . . . Why is simply moving the ball joint further inboard not =
a good solution? What am I missing?<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thanks in =
advance,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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style=3D'color:#888888'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:#888888'>Jack<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
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