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Re: [Fot] aftermarket crank dampeners and pullies for TR4's

To: James Gray <toodamnfunky@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] aftermarket crank dampeners and pullies for TR4's
From: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" <triosan@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 11:29:57 -0800
Cc: Friends <fot@autox.team.net>
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L got mine from Jones Brothers Racing. Lots of good stuff.
On Dec 5, 2013 11:00 AM, <toodamnfunky@comcast.net> wrote:

> I second that. If a harmonic balancer isn't needed on the tr4 then why have
> it? I'm all about taking
> some rotating mass off the motor because what I have now is solid stainless
> steel and it's pretty heavy.
> Bud R mentioned the blower drive pullies are available from Moss which use
> a
> serpentine belt.
> If not using the blower a shorter serpentine belt would have to be sourced
> but
> no big deal.
> I had no luck finding Gilmer drive pullies for the TR4 and I assume the
> one or
> two I have seen in the
> past were custom.
> jim g
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "Van Mulders Marcel" <van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be>
> To: toodamnfunky@comcast.net
> Cc: fot@autox.team.net
> Sent: Thursday, December 5, 2013 10:35:54 AM
> Subject: RE: [Fot] aftermarket crank dampeners and pullies for TR4's
>
> B
> FoT,
> Is it necessary to have a crank dampener installed on an engine with a
> billet steel crankshaft?
> If not, I would remove the dampener/pulley and replace the V-belt drive
> with
> a Gilmer drive. With only a small Gilmer pulley and a disc with timing
> marks
> on the crankshaft, the Gilmer drive parts would make for B  4 lbs less
> weight
> than the V-belt installation. Can the lack of a dampener be the cause of a
> broken crankshaft?
> Marcel, Belgium
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Namens
> toodamnfunky@comcast.net
> Verzonden: dinsdag 3 december 2013 19:14
> Aan: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph
> Onderwerp: [Fot] aftermarket crank dampeners and pullies for TR4's
>
> FoT
>
> I have the Moss B= pulley and belt conversion with the rubber joint on the
> crank pulley/dampener.
>
> Kas warned me at Elkhart lake that these can separate and with that I would
> like to explore higher quality
>
> crank dampeners. We installed an ATI super damper on Mark Edenbs car and
> there are three things about it I donbt like.
>
> B B  B 1. Cost + $ 500.00
> B B  B 2. They are not clocked correctly for the TR4 and a new timing
> pointer
> needs to be fitted in a less than ideal position.
> B B  B 3. With the engine installed there is only B<b clearance to the
> steering rack.
>
>
>
> B
>
> So with that I have been looking at OEM and aftermarket dampeners/balancers
> for other cars but I just donbt know
>
> enough about machining to determine if it would be worth trying to machine
> a
> balancer from another make to fit the TR4.
>
> B
>
> While on the subject of pullies in general Ibm wondering what others have
> done with non-Triumph parts.
>
> I would prefer a serpentine belt. I know I could fit a good quality
> tensioner but still stuck on fitting non-triumph pullies
>
> to the TR-4.
>
> Can anyone advise on this subject ?
>
> Thanks,
>
> jim g
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