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Re: [Fot] Steering shaft u-joint TR-4

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Subject: Re: [Fot] Steering shaft u-joint TR-4
From: Tony Drews <tony@tonydrews.com> {sentby:smtp auth 173.22.113.197 authed with tony@tonydrews.com}
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 20:47:41 -0500
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Let's try this again in plain text:
So here's the issue - I'm running TR-6 U joints.  But the housing on 
one of them is so beefy that the pinch bolt won't actually pinch it 
tight on the steering shaft.  When I rebuilt it last time, I even 
relieved some additional metal out of the "slot" with a cutoff wheel 
to help this.  I can slide the shaft in and out of the u-joint 
slightly.  If I tighten the bolt any more I'll break it.  This makes 
me very nervous.

It appears that there is a Borgeson u-joint that's 9/16" - 36 spline 
on both ends but rather than a pinch bolt it uses a large set 
screw.  If I drill dimples into the pieces it will firmly hold them 
in place.  I've got one coming.

The odd thing is that of the TR-6 u-joints I have two distinct 
styles.  One doesn't have as beefy a pinch area so the pinch bolt can 
actually pinch the darn thing together and make it nice and 
tight.  Ideally I would find another one of those, but the current 
manufacturing doesn't seem to follow that pattern.

I agree that the rag joints aren't a great idea - but that's not the 
problem I have.

Someone mentioned using an MBG u-joint (heresy!) - it appears that 
there are more than one which will fit an MGB - anyone know which one 
is 9*16" x 36 spline?

Thanks, Tony

At 07:48 PM 10/15/2012, malaboge@aol.com wrote:

Here's another vote for the TR6 joints...all metal and a direct bolt 
in.  The units with the "rag joint" are only outdone on the the 
"crummy scale" by the units with eight conical "faucet washers" 
holding it all together.  I do a lot of tech for the local clubs and 
can't even count all of the bad, torn or extremely loose joints I've 
found.  Some were so bad the cars weren't allowed on the track until 
the joints were fixed.

All cars that come thru the shop with any of the rag/taper washer 
setups automatically get the solid joints installed...now that's 
really a "safety upgrade" ...unlike the song and dances I've heard 
for brakes, engines, trannies...oh wait that's a different rant!

Still tryin to keep it vintage...
Nick in Norcal
-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Drews <tony@tonydrews.com>
To: fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:53 pm
Subject: [Fot] Steering shaft u-joint TR-4


My steering shaft has two u-joints in it.  The lower one is a big
beefy cast thing that I bought from Moss to replace the big beefy
cast thing that was there before.  The upper one isn't quite as heavy
duty looking but does a much better job of actually clamping onto the
shaft.  I've tightened the sh** out of the lower big beefy one and
it's still not as tightly clamped as I'd like.

So...  Where can I buy alternate u-joints for the TR-4 steering shaft?

Look forward to the advice.

Tony Drews

PS - article on front suspension swap to TR-6 stuff is still coming.
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