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Re: [Fot] VTR & FoT

To: John Macartney <standardtriumph@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] VTR & FoT
From: Michael Porter <mdporter@dfn.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 04:15:48 -0600
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John Macartney wrote:
> Bill Babcock wrote:
> You wrote the email I thought of writing but decided not to. 
> Personally, the only clubs I really want to belong to are the ones 
> that have a bar, a restaurant (good one), a pool table and a library 
> (in my case that's the Arlington Club, a truly great establishment 
> here in Portland), and the ones like the FOT, where no twinkie with a 
> claptrap P.O.S. excuse for a LBC gets up at every meeting and rants 
> about parliamentary procedure and whether or not they have a quorum to 
> decide on tuna fish sandwiches for the picnic. 
>  
> Hey, Bill - we've got twinkies like that in the UK too! I refer to 
> them as paid up members of "The Chipping Sodbury Dynamo and Starter 
> Motor Appreciation Society"
>  
> FOT part of VTR (or any other "real" organization)--*perish the thought*. 
>  
> Well, it's come to my notice over the years via this list that the VTR 
> isn't always the most popular with certain individuals, and in a 
> democracy everyone should be able to speak their mind. However as I 
> don't want to get involved in the whys or wherefores, I'll try to keep 
> foot out of mouth. If FoT is happy on its own then fine, if FoT feels 
> association with a national or local club is desirable, that's fine as 
> well. In the UK, the Triumph racing fraternity usually belong to one 
> of two national clubs (Triumph Sports Six and/or TR Register) but 
> because that's the way we do it here, doesn't mean North America 
> should copy.
>  
> Perhaps its time for me to go into the fallout shelter.......
>  
> Jonmac

Ultimately, the question is one of value added or lost by such an 
association. FoT is, by nature, very _ad hoc_, while the VTR is 
dominated by rules and a governing body. 


That alone will grate on some.  Right now, one can be a member of one or 
the other, or both, without either group interfering with the other, and 
any cooperation between the two is entirely voluntary.  That seems to me 
to be the ideal set of circumstances.


Cheers.

-- 


Michael Porter
Roswell, NM


Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance....


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John Macartney wrote:
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  <div>Bill Babcock wrote:</div>
  <div>You wrote the email I thought of writing but decided not to.
Personally, the only clubs I really want to belong to are the ones that
have a bar, a restaurant (good one), a pool table and a library (in my
case that's the Arlington Club, a&nbsp;truly&nbsp;great establishment here in
Portland), and the ones like the FOT, where no twinkie with a claptrap
P.O.S. excuse for a LBC gets up at every meeting and rants
about&nbsp;parliamentary&nbsp;procedure and whether or not they have a quorum to
decide on tuna fish sandwiches for the picnic.&nbsp;</div>
  <div>&nbsp;</div>
  <div><font face="Arial">Hey, Bill - we've got twinkies like that in
the UK too! I refer to them as paid up members of "The Chipping Sodbury
Dynamo and Starter Motor Appreciation Society" </font></div>
  <div>&nbsp;</div>
  <div>FOT part of VTR (or any other "real" organization)--<b>perish
the thought</b>.&nbsp;</div>
  <div>&nbsp;</div>
  <div><font face="Arial">Well, it's come to my notice over the years
via this list&nbsp;that the VTR isn't always the most popular with certain
individuals, and in a democracy everyone should be able to speak their
mind. However as I don't want to get involved in the whys or
wherefores, I'll try to keep foot out of mouth. If FoT is happy on its
own then fine, if FoT feels association with a national or local club
is desirable, that's fine as well. In the UK, the Triumph racing
fraternity usually belong to one of two national clubs (Triumph Sports
Six and/or TR Register)&nbsp;but because that's the way we do it here,
doesn't mean North America should copy.</font></div>
  <div>&nbsp;</div>
  <div><font face="Arial">Perhaps its time for me to go into the
fallout shelter.......</font></div>
  <div>&nbsp;</div>
  <div><font face="Arial">Jonmac</font></div>
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Ultimately, the question is one of value added or lost by such an
association. FoT is, by nature, very _ad hoc_, while the VTR is
dominated by rules and a governing body.&nbsp; <br>
<br>
<br>
That alone will grate on some.&nbsp; Right now, one can be a member of one
or the other, or both, without either group interfering with the other,
and any cooperation between the two is entirely voluntary.&nbsp; That seems
to me to be the ideal set of circumstances.<br>
<br>
<br>
Cheers.<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 


Michael Porter
Roswell, NM


Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking 
distance....</pre>
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