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Jim,
Lot's of us are members of the VTR and also our local Triumph clubs which a=
re for the most part Chapters of the VTR. I believe one of the requirements=
for becoming a chapter is to hold an annual event, which we seem to be doi=
ng with the Kastner Cup. Although it wouldn't help the autocrossers and hil=
l-climbers on the list, any additional promotion that would result from an =
"FOT Chapter" of the VTR putting more Triumphs out to race for the Kastner =
Cup gets my vote. On the other hand I think there is some provision for a m=
onthly newsletter and as a loosely organized group with no dues, rules etc.=
I don't think we want that kind of obligation.
Speaking of annual events, the Texas All British Car Day, my local club's (=
Hill Country Triumph Club) annual event is this weekend near Austin Texas. =
We are in our 18th year and this show was created specifically to meet the =
VTR requirements. If you are going to be in the area we have a rallye Satur=
day afternoon and a participant's choice car show Sunday. We had 144 cars l=
ast year. Contact me directly for info. As always I'll be bringing my racec=
ar to promote vintage racing.
Bob Kramer
________________________________
From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Beh=
alf Of Jim
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 11:14 PM
To: Herald948@aol.com
Cc: fot@autox.team.net; bdischer@blakedischer.com
Subject: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen Poster VTR & FoT
Andy,
To what point?
When I purchased my first Spitfire ('73 1500) in 1989 I'd asked a friend fa=
miliar with the scene if there were any clubs to look at. I was told of on=
e national club ( VTR) but told they were only focused on the side curtain =
TRs.
My first call to a VTR officer in central NJ kinda confirmed that idea.
To my knowledge most of the factory efforts post sidecurtain cars went into=
the Spitfires.. not forgetting the Group 44 TR6s and the TR7/TR8s.
There are members on this list who are die hard VTR members. There are fol=
ks on this list who maybe are a bit... ambivalent about the VTR. At best.
So... as a former VTR president.. what are you proposing? And what are the=
requirements, and dues?
I rule nothing out before looking at it.. Maybe I won't like what I see th=
ough.
Cheers,
Jim
Dallas
'76 DM Spitfire autocrossser
and a barn full of projects.
________________________________
From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Beh=
alf Of Herald948@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 9:25 PM
To: tr3a58@verizon.net; N197TR4@cs.com
Cc: fot@autox.team.net; bdischer@blakedischer.com
Subject: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen Poster VTR & FoT
In a message dated 9/23/2008 8:59:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tr3a58@ver=
izon.net writes:
Joe;
You might be surprized as to how many FOT members are also members o=
f the VTR. I for one am VTR member #599. Joined way back in the beginning. =
Also a member of TRA, TR Register/UK, SVRA, VDCA, SCCA, and yes, National S=
treet Rod Association. A tried and true "Car Nut".
Dean Tetterton
=3D=3DAM=3D=3D
Gee, Dean, you're just a kid. My VTR member number is 113. ;-)
This does raise an interesting possibility, were FoT members so inclined: p=
erhaps we could become some sort of "Special Chapter" or "Affiliate" of VTR=
?
--Andy Mace
*Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet?
*Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph H=
erald engine with wings.
-- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus (22)
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Jim,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><st1:place w:st=3D"on"><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy fac=
e=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Lot</span></font><=
/st1:place><font
size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:Arial;
color:navy'>’s of us are members of the VTR and also our local Triump=
h
clubs which are for the most part Chapters of the VTR. I believe one of the
requirements for becoming a chapter is to hold an annual event, which we se=
em
to be doing with the Kastner Cup. Although it wouldn’t help the autoc=
rossers
and hill-climbers on the list, any additional promotion that would result f=
rom
an “FOT Chapter” of the VTR putting more Triumphs out to race f=
or
the Kastner Cup gets my vote. On the other hand I think there is some provi=
sion
for a monthly newsletter and as a loosely organized group with no dues, rul=
es
etc. I don’t think we want that kind of obligation.<o:p></o:p></span>=
</font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Speaking of annual events, the Texas A=
ll
British Car Day, my local club’s (Hill Country Triumph Club) annual e=
vent
is this weekend near Austin Texas. We are in our 18<sup>th</sup> year and t=
his
show was created specifically to meet the VTR requirements. If you are goin=
g to
be in the area we have a rallye Saturday afternoon and a participant’=
s
choice car show Sunday. We had 144 cars last year. Contact me directly for
info. As always I’ll be bringing my racecar to promote vintage racing=
.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Bob Kramer<o:p></o:p></span></font></p=
>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><font siz=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-si=
ze:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=3D2
face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] <b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Jim<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, September 23,=
2008
11:14 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Herald948@aol.com<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> fot@autox.team.net;
bdischer@blakedischer.com<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Fot] Watkins G=
len
Poster VTR & FoT</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
'font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Andy,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>To what point?<o:p></o:p></span></fon=
t></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>When I purchased my first Spitfire ('=
73
1500) in 1989 I'd asked a friend familiar with the scene if there were any
clubs to look at. I was told of one national club ( VTR) but told the=
y
were only focused on the side curtain TRs.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>My first call to a VTR officer i=
n
central NJ kinda confirmed that idea.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>To my knowledge most of the factory
efforts post sidecurtain cars went into the Spitfires.. not forgetting the
Group 44 TR6s and the TR7/TR8s.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>There are members on this list who ar=
e
die hard VTR members. There are folks on this list who maybe are a bi=
t...
ambivalent about the VTR. At best.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>So... as a former VTR president.. wha=
t
are you proposing? And what are the requirements, and dues?<o:p></o:p=
></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I rule nothing out before looking at
it.. Maybe I won't like what I see though.<o:p></o:p></span></font></=
p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Jim<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><st1:City w:st=3D"on"><st1:place w:st=3D"on"><font siz=
e=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Ar=
ial;
color:black'>Dallas</span></font></st1:place></st1:City><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Aria=
l;
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>'76 DM Spitfire autocrossser<o:p></o:=
p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>and a barn full of projects.<o:p></o:=
p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><font siz=
e=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Aria=
l;
color:black'>
<hr size=3D2 width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter tabIndex=3D-1>
</span></font></div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=3D2 color=
=3Dblack
face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:blac=
k;
font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=
=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>
fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] <b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Herald948@aol.com<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, September 23,=
2008
9:25 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> tr3a58@verizon.net;
N197TR4@cs.com<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> fot@autox.team.net;
bdischer@blakedischer.com<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Fot] Watkins G=
len
Poster VTR & FoT</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial=
><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span>=
</font></p>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial id=3D"role_d=
ocument"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>In a message dated
9/23/2008 8:59:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tr3a58@verizon.net writes:<o:=
p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0=
in 0in 4.0pt;
margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Joe;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> =
You
might be surprized as to how many FOT members are also members of the VTR. =
I
for one am VTR member #599. Joined way back in the beginning. Also a
member of TRA, TR Register/UK, SVRA, VDCA, SCCA, and yes, National Street R=
od
Association. A tried and true "Car Nut". <o:p></o:p></span></font=
></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Dean Tetterton<o:p></o:p></span></fon=
t></p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>=3D=3DAM=3D=3D<o:p></o:p></span></fon=
t></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Gee, Dean, you're just a kid. My VTR
member number is 113. ;-)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>This does raise an interesting
possibility, were FoT members so inclined: perhaps we could become some sor=
t of
"Special Chapter" or "Affiliate" of VTR? <o:p></o:p></s=
pan></font></p>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial PTSIZE=3D10
FAMILY=3DSANSSERIF><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:=
black'>--Andy
Mace<br>
<br>
*Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet?<br>
*Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph
Herald engine with wings.<br>
-- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus (22)<br>
<br>
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Register: <a href=3D"http://www.vtr.org/";>http://www.vtr.org</a><br>
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