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Re: Head gaskets

To: neuman@radonc17.ucsf.edu, datsun-roadsters@Autox.Team.Net
Subject: Re: Head gaskets
From: Keith0alan@aol.com
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 12:25:49 EST
Let's talk about warped heads. For the head to seal and the cam to turn  
properly the combustion chamber side of the head and the cam tower mounting 
pads  
must be flat and parallel. When the head warps both sides of the head warps. 
If  you only reface the combustion chamber side then the cam tower pads are no  
longer flat. This leads to a tight cam and cam breakage. Two possible fixes,  
line bore the cam towers or mill the back side of the head to make the cam 
tower  pads parallel with the combustion chamber face. To restore everything 
back to  normal you would shim the towers the amount removed from that side and 
use a  dead soft aluminum or copper spacer along with the head gasket. By 
examining the  cam wipe patterns you should be able to tell how much shim is 
needed. Measuring  the head thickness or better yet measure the volume of the 
combustion chambers  will tell you how much spacer you need. Two regular 
gaskets can 
be done, but,  you have very little control over the thickness and the 
durability would not be  as good. Of course you will find that your combustion 
chambers are all different  sizes (think about it) and they should really be 
cleaned up and made the same  size. As the head is thinned the cam is lowered. 
Since 
there a certain number of  chain links between the crank and the cam, the 
thinner the head gets the more  the cam is retarded in timing. The Z actually 
has 
multiple cam sprocket mounting  holes to allow for this. The chain slack is 
removed by the tensioner. 
 
Hope that makes things clearer for you. If I missed something I'll try  again.
 
keith
 
 
In a message dated 12/30/2004 8:07:50 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
neuman@radonc17.ucsf.edu writes:

Hello  All,
In my quest to reduce my compression ratio and to return  my
crank-to-cam distance back to normal I am liking the idea of a thicker  head
gasket to make up the difference.  With a thicker head gasket I  won't have
to shim the cam towers and worry about the wipe pattern on the  followers or
worry about having to align bore the cam journals.   
Does anybody have any experience with this?  I thought  that maybe it
was possible to get thicker copper head gaskets?  Mike  was telling me he
thought he heard it was possible to take two stock head  gaskets and glue
them together somehow but he did not have any first hand  experience with it.
Mike also has a metal plate in the shape of a head  gasket that he got from
Stan a long while ago.  Supposedly this plate  can be used with a stock head
gasket to lower your CR and return your valve  timing.  He was not sure how
to implement this.  Has anyone had  any experience with doing something like
this?  I am of course  concerned about sealing the head under boosted
conditions.  Any  (helpful) thoughts on any of this stuff?
Also, man I am  feeling really special here, but I don't understand
why a too thin head  messes with the valve timing?  If the timing chain is
not overly slack  I don't see how the valve timing is disturbed?  Anyone
wanna set me  straight??
Thanks,
Daniel Neuman
Oakland CA






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