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Re: 1970 electrical help

To: "Patrick J. Horne" <horne@cs.utexas.edu>
Subject: Re: 1970 electrical help
From: Joe Rubio <joe@venuesports.com>
Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 07:53:25 -0700
Pat,

We've installed a new engine harness already. This is the one that takes
care of the lights and ends near the front of the car.  The other wires
coming out of the fire wall, those are the ones I'm lost on.  For
instance, the ones you mention that are exensive and part of the dash
harness, what specifically do they go to?  I have a new harness for the
alternator but the plug ins don't fit either the car so I'm thinking
maybe either the cars plugs aren't right or the harness is incorrect or
I'm mistaken thinking that the plugs from the car are not at all for the
alternator and are for something entirely different.  See the thing is,
the harnesses I'm buying for a 1970 1600 are not working out, they do
not jive with what's in the car.  If I can see an actual 1970 1600 or
2000, then it's easy, I can get a visual. Then it's mearly a matter of
chopping off the connector that doesn't fit and reconfigure that.  The
wires in the car have no color on them so I cannot trace them back. 
It's a cluster **** in there.  

So I know basically what I need, it's just the dots are not lining up at
all.  Maybe a brief description of the fire wall and what harnesses
originate from and go to would be very helpful start.

Thanks.

Joe

"Patrick J. Horne" wrote:
> 
> Joe,
> 
> Installing a new/used but good engine harness may be your best bet. I
> deleted the email from someone else that sugested this, but they are
> correct. If you consider the value of your time in this it would be a lot
> cheaper to buy as much of the harness as you can, then patch the
> remainder. Recall that the wires that come out of the right side ofthe
> firewall are part of the dash harness. Replacing these few wires will be
> expensive, since there are only 4 or so to deal with and it would probably
> cost more in time to replace the dash harness than it would to figure out
> those 4 or so wires and repair them.
> 
> Peace,
> Pat
> 
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> 
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> University of Texas, 1 University Station C0500,Austin, Tx. 78712-1188 USA
> voice (512)471-9730, fax (512)471-8885, horne@cs.utexas.edu
> 
> On Mon, 7 Oct 2002, Joe Rubio wrote:
> 
> > Folks,
> >
> > My buddy and I have hit our heads against a wall.  We are trying to
> > finish up my 1970 1600 with a 2000 engine.  The problem is as follows,
> > he nor I have a frame of reference for knowing how to hook up the coil,
> > the alternator and the starter. This comes from the fact that the
> > previous owner had a tractor engine in the car and redid all the wiring,
> > so we have no idea what goes where because the car didn;t have anything
> > but an empty engine compartment when we got it.  Everything just is a
> > mess and doesn't make any sense.  Add to that the fact that different
> > Datsuns Roadsters have different set-ups meaning we cannot look at
> > photos on the net and get a clear idea of what goes where.  We are
> > stuck.  We can probably redo the whole thing from the wiring diagram,
> > but we like to avoid having to do that.  What we ideally need is someone
> > who knows the electrical set up on a 1970 1600/2000 SU car who can
> > assist us.  As I see it, the engine compartment has 3 basic harnesses,
> > one for the lights, etc in the front of the engine compartment (we have
> > a new one of those) and then 2 additional ones. Is there anyone in San
> > Luis Obispo who knows 2000's well enough that can tell us exactly what
> > goes where by taking a look at my screwed up electrical situation in
> > person and advising us a course of action?  If there is someone in the
> > East Bay Area in Fremont, Walnut Creek, Danville or even San Jose who
> > can help, that would be great too.  My buddy is up there next week for
> > business and can stop by to take some digital photos of your car and
> > chat.  See he's the brains of the opperation, but he's a muscle car/Saab
> > guy, not really a Datsun Roadster guy so he's lost, which means I'm
> > lost.
> >
> > I know I've made this request before, but we thought we could figure it
> > out on our own.  Turns out, we can't. The bummer is we have all the
> > mechanical in, ready to go.  New brakes, new rebuilt engine, rebuilt
> > carbs, rebuilt starter, new batter tray, cables and battery.  New
> > clutch, cleaned out gas tank, new hoses throughout.  New tires on the
> > way, Miata seats getting ready to come in from Florida. The thing is
> > ready to roll, but we need spark.  Can anyone help us out?
> >
> > Let me know. Appreciate any input you guys can offer.  We're going to
> > get this damn thing to Solvang this year of it kills us.  It looks like
> > it just might.
> >
> > Joe
> >
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