For all:
Another option that might be cheaper/better would be to
go with an L series engine. Look on the 510 sites,
there are built up L16/18/20 engines avail for maybe around
500-1K in good shape. The L series should be easier to adapt
than the KA motor, as its got old school stuff on it
(carbs, points, minimal smog plumbing, no ECU etc)
add a dog-leg 5 spd or a 280ZX 5spd and away you go.
You would also be quite fast if you went with say
a dual carb L20.
For the 1600 dont assume that it needs total
complete multi-thousand dollar work. You cant
estimate cost until you pull it out and take
it apart. Maybe you can live quite reliably
for another 50K miles with a hone job and some
rings, and a valve job and valve guides,
timing gear and chain, and maybe a new oil
pump and rod bearings for insurance.
If you do most of the
work yourself, you should have her running
again for perhaps $500.
Keep the faith! Dont get bummed by assuming the
most expensive bad things will be wrong.
Be inventive and look around.
Best Regards,
Jim
Chesapeake Va
>From: "datsunmike" <datsunmike@nyc.rr.com>
>Reply-To: "datsunmike" <datsunmike@nyc.rr.com>
>To: "Will Slater" <will45817@yahoo.com>, "aaron atkins"
><amatkins@qnet.com>, "datsun list" <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: KA24 swap vs. 1600 rebuild
>Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 06:38:45 -0400
>
>You can't use the forklift pistons as they won't fit a 1600 but will fit a
>stroker. The costs of rebuilding an engine vary wildly depending on how
>much
>needs to be replaced such as pistons, cam, pushrods, valves and how machine
>work is needed such as new valve seats, boring the piston walls vs honing,
>resizing the rods etc.
>
>If your valves were never cut and the seats are OK you can possibly reuse
>the valves and save the seats. If the cam is OK you can have it polished up
>or just leave it alone.
>
>I would use only Nissan OEM timing gears, either forklift or Roadster. The
>bearings are easily obtainable as are the timing chains and tensioner.
>
>Like I said the costs vary widely - it depends what you want to do and what
>needs to be replaced. The KA24 set up is nice but probably requires a lot
>of
>work and you don't know the condition of the engine or tranny. If you think
>rebuilding a 1600 is a lot wait untill you see how much a KA24 will cost.
>
>Mike
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Will Slater" <will45817@yahoo.com>
>To: "aaron atkins" <amatkins@qnet.com>; "datsun list"
><datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
>Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 12:11 AM
>Subject: Re: KA24 swap vs. 1600 rebuild
>
>
> > I too am very intersted in this subject. Since my 1600
> > engine is smoking badly I need to consider the
> > options. I am wondering what such a rebuild would cost
> > using forklift U20 engine parts. One lister gave me
> > the url for a website for forklift parts and wonder
> > what parts one can use and which ones will not work.
> > The site is http://www.motorpowerinc.com/ As always
> > TIA!
> >
> > --- aaron atkins <amatkins@qnet.com> wrote:
> > > Well my overheating problem has been
> > > found..FINALLY. And I feel pretty
> > > dumb for not looking into it before. The timing
> > > chain is stretched
> > > extremely badly; there must be 20 degs. of slop in
> > > it. With 110# of
> > > compression and a bad timing set, I'm looking into
> > > options again. Someday I
> > > will learn to keep old e-mails from the list about
> > > new webpages. Who has
> > > the most comprehensive page about doing the KA24
> > > swap?
> > > The one thing I have not seen is a good dollar
> > > for dollar comparison of
> > > swapping vs. rebuilding (1600). Who has done a
> > > complete re-build lately?
> > > Assuming my crank only needs turning and my rods are
> > > good, what does it cost
> > > to do a COMPLETE re-build on a 1600? On the other
> > > side of the coin; If I
> > > could get a KA24 set-up (motor,trans,ECU) for about
> > > $800.00, how much does
> > > all of the little stuff (rad.,plumbing,mounts,misc)
> > > cost? Has anybody
> > > converted a KA24 or SR20 to carbs? I know this may
> > > be a silly question, but
> > > carbs are easy and I would not have to modify the
> > > current system a whole
> > > lot.
> > > Finally, a couple of weeks ago I picked up a
> > > Vintage Formula Vee
> > > w/trailer. It is a barn fresh roller. The chassis
> > > is super straight, and
> > > all of the body work is present. I think I'm going
> > > to sell it to finance
> > > the Roadster project (some more). If anyone is
> > > interested in it contact me
> > > O/L.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Aaron
> > > '67 1600
> > >
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