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RE: Rear spoiler for custom

To: "'Gary McCormick'" <svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com>,
Subject: RE: Rear spoiler for custom
From: "Hall, Phillip" <Phillip.B.Hall@MSFC.NASA.GOV>
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:11:08 -0600
Do any of you guys have a link to the Audi TT.  I would like to see their
spoiler.  I have a model, but it was made before the recall.

Phil

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary McCormick [mailto:svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 10:05 AM
To: Pre-Zee
Cc: Hall, Phillip; Roadsters (E-mail)
Subject: Re: Rear spoiler for custom


Not to say for sure that Phillip's spoiler will produce any (or the desired)
effect, but
take a look at the little lip spoiler that has sprouted recently on Audi
TTs. The Audi TT
spoiler was a recall - they found the cars were getting tail happy due to a
low-pressure
condition over the rear deck. Small changes in the direction of the air
flow, especially
at the rear of the car, can make a big difference. A small "lip" spoiler
like this is
designed to keep the air flow attached to the rear of the car for a little
bit longer,
reducing turbulent drag and the lift that may accompany it. (BTW - I sat in
an Audi TT
convertible at the SF Auto Show last week - after I went and checked out
Calspeed's car in
the vintage racer room - pretty nifty!).

Gary McCormick
San Jose, CA

Pre-Zee wrote:

> I like it, but as you say it can sure disappear.  I am thinking it is too
> small to be very effective.  Have you considered carrying the rear panel
up
> to the tops of the fins?  If your rear pan went up to the top of the fins
&
> straight across it would give slightly more presence to the rear of the
car
> & a whole lot more 'wing' surface area.  Maybe too much surface area, but
> you could reduce it by cutting out D-A-T-S-U-N across the 'wing'
>
> On second thought maybe that will produce more drag than actual downforce
as
> you would be creating a pocket.  Oh well, it's a thought anyway.
>
> I am glad to see you are attaching to the car body rather than the trunk
lid
> which flexes on it squishy rubber molding.
>
> George M (Pre-Z)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Hall, Phillip <Phillip.B.Hall@MSFC.NASA.GOV>
> To: Roadsters (E-mail) <Datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 7:40 AM
> Subject: Rear spoiler for custom
>
> > Hey All -
> >
> > I made a rear spoiler for the custom out of 1/6 inch aluminum.  It
turned
> > out nice, but will make some adjustments in shape.  I will also make one
> out
> > of 1/8 aluminum to add some dimension.
> >
> > Pictures at www.picturetrail.com/SPL311
> >
> > Let me know how you like it.  Friends can't make up their mind.  They
> think
> > the car looks good with or without.  I like it!!  Once Spot is one
color,
> it
> > will stand out more.
> >
> > You all have a great day!!
> >
> > Phil
> > SEROC
> >
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