GRM dyno tested a mini and a mini S and got hp at the wheels that was pretty
close to the published crank figures. its not a lightweight car so clearly
theres been a little monkey business with the figures. two other cars i
know had similar discrepencies: the 1st gen probe GT (rated 145, actual
190), and the supra TT (rated 326, actual 360+).
-james
OSP - Old Serpent's Pasttime
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jake Hodges" <jake@codeworm.com>
To: <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 9:52 PM
Subject: RE: New MINI Cooper and Cooper S.
> I'm curious about your proposal, Rich. Can you share details? Or did you
> already share details when I had my head under a rock?
>
> And, Peter, flattery will get you nowhere. When you look at other
evidence
> regarding both the del Sol and the Mini, it points strongly to the car and
> not to me. I just barely managed to best Alan in my own car at Round 17,
> although I got him by a healthy margin in his ailing Civic a few times
> after I got race tires. I suspect the final evidence would be Stan's
video
> of my fastest run which shows me ABSing out of control and way off line in
> the GGF gravel. Even I could have done much better.
>
> Frankly, I love competing with Stan no matter what he brings. He
tolerates
> my swollen head and bad Ali impressions, and Alan verified that Stan was
in
> the coolest movie ever. Alan, on the other hand, has admitted considering
> hitting me on the swollen head with his torque wrench on several
> occasions. Dan needs to get race tires.
>
> Finally, I wasn't clear on one thing... The curb weight of Dan's Prelude
> is 2600 lbs, which his 105hp just makes FEEL like 3700 lbs.
>
> It's interesting that those specs are so close to what Mini claims for
> their car. Why is it so much better? A Mini fanatic coworker made a wild
> claim substantiated only by hearsay that their published power specs were
> at the wheel. It sure FELT more powerful than my car when I was flailing
> through the slalom.
>
> Jake
>
> By the way, did anyone else see that beautiful launch out of Vandenberg
> tonight? It sure looked like the interceptor was successful.
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~kd6nrp/vafbsked.htm
>
>
>
> At 12:10 PM 10/14/2002 -0700, Thana, Peter {High~Palo Alto} wrote:
> > >Anyway, for regional-only folks, basing the classes on nationals is
> > >of limited meaning.
>
> >...
>
> >The current system isn't perfect, but at least it tries to base the
handicap
> >on the car. The very top of each class at most national level events is
> >fought for by drivers who can consistently get closer to the potential of
> >the car under the rules as they are written than you or I could. ...
> >
> >Peter
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