Agreed it's a neat site; if only we could regulate the heat! :(
--Pat K
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>From: "Boris Elpiner" <boris@elpiner.net>
>To: "'Pat Kelly'" <lollipop487@attbi.com>, <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
>Subject: Events at Castle (Was: Gravel at Golden Gate Fields)
>Date: Mon, Jun 3, 2002, 5:12 PM
>
> Pat,
>
> You can add my vote to the tally. Castle's Winton Ramp is by far our
> best site. If we schedule the event at the right time we should get a
> pretty good turnout. I think many newcomers would enjoy a different
> auto-x experience and our National competitors would REALLY appreciate a
> concrete practice. It's probably too late to do anything this year, but
> let's keep it in mind for the future.
>
> Boris.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ba-autox@autox.team.net
> [mailto:owner-ba-autox@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pat Kelly
> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 1:40 PM
> To: Thana, Peter {High~Palo Alto}; joe; ba-autox@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: Gravel at Golden Gate Fields
>
> Peter,
> Okay, so far you're a second vote for Atwater, and I'm assuming you
> want
> the Winton Ramp area? There are smaller sites available.
> The only way we can get the Winton Ramp is for a full weekend,
> because
> the folks at Atwater want "heads in beds," i.e, people who will fill
> Atwater's checking accounts.
> As the events in Sacramento have shown (and they are all over both
> days
> of a weekend, but you can choose to run just one day), two-day weekends
> work, though I don't know how many are local residents who sleep in
> their
> own beds in the Sac area, and those who actually rent motel rooms and
> eat
> meals there, or those who enter one day only.
> For the Sacramento-area residents, a two-day weekend isn't a biggie,
> but
> if you want to run all the events of a series, you'd be committed to the
> overnight deal, or long drives each day. Since there is not a strong
> autocross group in Atwater, though some do live in Fresno and Modesto,
> or
> Salida :), could SFR attract enough people to support a fairly high rent
> site (forgotten, but it's a close match to some of the Bay Area site
> costs)?
> I wouldn't want to bet SFR's solvency on many two-dayers at Atwater!
> :)
> --Pat K
>
>
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>>From: "Thana, Peter {High~Palo Alto}" <PETER.THANA@ROCHE.COM>
>>To: 'Pat Kelly' <lollipop487@attbi.com>, Joe <joe@bea.com>,
> ba-autox@autox.team.net
>>Subject: RE: Gravel at Golden Gate Fields
>>Date: Mon, Jun 3, 2002, 1:19 PM
>>
>
>> To be fair to John, we do have fewer events scheduled at GGF this year
> than
>> last. There are only 5 regular series events and 9 total on the
> calendar
>> this year as opposed to 7 and 11 respectively last year. Plus, we
> have 2
>> events scheduled at Marina this year and a good number of Oakland
> events.
>> Of course it seems like they are always defending GGF because there
> are so
>> many complaints about it (and I have my share, believe me:). But I do
>> believe that they are keeping our comments in mind when scheduling,
> it's
>> just not a very easy task.
>>
>> Honestly if distance were the only negative, I'd love to see a couple
> events
>> at Atwater. It's not really any more of a drive from most places than
>> Sacramento, and it is a very nice site. Not that we should have all
> of our
>> events there, but if a convenient date were available, I'd vote for
> it:)
>>
>> Peter
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