In the old "Council" days there was a rule that said cars must run with
their side windows close (if they had windows). In that era, it only
took one VW Bug rolling to bring that rule into existence. It might be a
good addition to our 01 Supps. And something else to police, which is a
pain. Maybe just commonsense should prevail.
--Pat Kelly
James Creasy wrote:
>
> during the first half of fun runs there was a person in a red jacket taking
> pictures on course while cars whizzed by behind him. no spotter. i tried
> to yell at him but i dont know if he heard me due to the wind. in any case,
> look out for him next time.
>
> the rule as i know it is that you have to keep your hands/arms inside the
> car... i.e. dont hang onto the door with your fingers out the window at all.
> you just tell them they cant do it. sorry, if you cant drive the car safely
> then you cant drive it on course. and it doesnt matter if was a man or
> woman... same safety rules applies to both.
>
> -James Creasy
> Slip Angle Racing www.klio.net/cobra
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Greg Umbay <greg_umbay@yahoo.com>
> To: Bay Area Autocross <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
> Date: Monday, October 23, 2000 9:54 AM
> Subject: A safetty question
>
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> >
> >I have a serious question regarding driver/worker safety. I would like to
> first say that I am not trying to bad mouth any person(s) or
> organization(s). While working the course I noticed a driver who was
> steering the wheel with the right hand and holding onto the door with the
> left hand. I radioed in asking someone to talk to that person. (I am
> unaware if anyone went to talk to the driver) Later the same car/driver
> came around again using the same one handed technique. I used common sense
> and stayed away from that car/driver, putting course work priority after
> safety. After the run group I found that driver and mentioned that 2 hands
> on the wheel was important for safety. The driver replied that the car's
> stock seat belts did not hold well and had to use one hand to hold on to the
> car. (I am trying not to be gender specific on purpose.) The driver's body
> size was small and did not fit into the car well. I suggested to adjust the
> seats, which was done but still a o!
> >ne handed technique was used. I also suggested a 5 point harness. The
> reply was "It's not my car."
> >
> >My question is where do we draw the line of safety?
> >
> >We are all volunteers and we come out to have fun. Should we or can we
> stop a person from driving because of safety? I understand that we can stop
> a car for mechanical and or technical reasons. But can we stop a driver
> based on the fact that the driver cannot sit in a car properly, risking
> loosing control of the car?
> >
> >Again, I am not trying to bash or trash talk at all.
> >
> >
> >
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> ><P>I have a serious question regarding driver/worker safety. I would
> like to first say that I am not trying to bad mouth any person(s) or
> organization(s). While working the course I noticed a driver who was
> steering the wheel with the right hand and holding onto the door with
> the left hand. I radioed in asking someone to talk to that
> person. (I am unaware if anyone went to talk to the driver)
> Later the same car/driver came around again using the same one handed
> technique. I used common sense and stayed away from that car/driver,
> putting course work priority after safety. After the run group I found
> that driver and mentioned that 2 hands on the wheel was important for
> safety. The driver replied that the car's stock seat belts did not
> hold well and had to use one hand to hold on to the car. (I am trying
> not to be gender specific on purpose.) The driver's body size was
> small and did not fit into the!
> > car well. I suggested to adjust the seats, which was done but still
> a one handed technique was used. I also suggested a 5 point
> harness. The reply was "It's not my car."</P>
> ><P>My question is where do we draw the line of safety?</P>
> ><P>We are all volunteers and we come out to have fun. Should we or
> can we stop a person from driving because of safety? I understand that
> we can stop a car for mechanical and or technical reasons. But can we
> stop a driver based on the fact that the driver cannot sit in a car
> properly, risking loosing control of the car?</P>
> ><P>Again, I am not trying to bash or trash talk at all.
> </P><BR><BR><P>********************************************************<BR>S
> treet Touring -S</P>
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