It's obvious. Mongo is suffering from a lack of Gravitas.
>From: Bill Ozinga <oz@tirerack.com>
>Reply-To: Bill Ozinga <oz@tirerack.com>
>To: Paul Foster <pfoster@gdi.net>, "team.net" <autox@autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: Heat cycle for the DOT Race tires, needed or not?
>Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 12:33:37 -0700
>
>Mongo thumped the keyboard and this came out...
>
> > Heat cycling good. Mongo like. Check out the Hoosier method on the
> > Tire Rack web site for details. Tire Rack heat cycling bad. Mongo no
> > like.
>
> > Mongo thinks it is a cash extraction device because there is no
> > way it can do the same thing as Hoosier method.
>
>Mongo a bit(?) cynical and uninformed. BFG, Hoosier and Kumho all approve
>of
>our process. BFG has tested and published the results. It works.
>
> > Mongo also knows they
> > heat cycle nearly all the shaved tires so you get it for free if you
> > ask for shaved tires.
>
>Mongo downright wrong on this one. I think we may have sent you a pair that
>way to solve a delivery time problem, but we certainly don't heatcycle
>everything we shave.
>
> > But all of Mongo's rich road race friends have 2
> > sets of wheels so they can heat cycle the new Hoosiers Saturday
> > morning and they will be just right for the Sunday afternoon race.
>
>Allow 24-48 hours mininum time before using or don't bother heatcycling at
>all.
>
> > But
> > of course, racing ain't autocrossing is it? ;-)
>
>Why, if it were we'd all be on Speedvision!
>
> > IMHO
>
>What? Mongo humble? Then he must not be...
>
> > Paul Foster
>
>Hmmmm.... I wouldn't want to argue with that guy, he's more determined than
>a pitbull.
>
>Then in a seperate message Paul "My new last name *is* easier to spell than
>my old one" Cezanne said...
>
> > And besides, didn't Bill Oz sort of agree with Hoosier Tom? It is a
> > waste of money.
> >
> > It is NOT a waste of TIME. For some this is very important. Bill is
> > very upfront about what it does and doesn't do.
>
>I never said waste of money. Here's exactly what I said...
>
> > There is absolutely no difference between our mechanical heatcycling
>service
> > and doing it properly yourself, and that is stated on our website. But
>there
> > are advantages to our service which apply in some situations...
> >
> > Taking them as a backup set unmounted - you wouldn't have to mount,
> > heatcycle, dismount, remount the original set.
> >
> > Time - not like anyone ever procrastinates, but ours spend the curing
>time
> > while being shipped and you don't have to do the extra wheel swaps.
> >
> > Consistency and wear - we get very even temps in the tire with no wear.
> >
> > Not all cars street legal/plated - Especially true for road racing/track
> > events.
> >
> > No risk to puncture - Some race tires are a bit fragile when it comes to
> > punctures, so why take the risk of damaging one on the street?
> >
> > If any of these factors apply to you, compare convenience to cost and
>make
> > your choice.
>
>Where Tom and I disagree is whether or not an autoxer on the autoxer
>compound benefits as much as a roadracer on roadrace compounds.
>
>Here's Hoosier Tom's quote...
>
> > I just don't think it's as great a value for A3S03 Hoosiers as it is for
> > R3S03 Hoosiers.
> > That's my opinion and experience. YMMV
>
>Well, my mileage did vary. It varied about 40% . In my personal experience,
>heatcycling Hoosiers (either compound - and I've been on Hoosiers since the
>radial came out) gave me about a 40% improvement in treadwear over
>"sticker"
>sets. Not real scientific, but that's what happened for me. That kind of
>improvement worth $60 to me, whether you pay for it in "real money" or
>time.
>Getting a 40% improvement in wear for 10% of the cost of the tires is a
>no-brainer, even for Mongo.
>
>Personally, I choose the mechanical version because I don't think Hoosiers
>would make it in and out of my gravel driveway without damage and think
>it's
>silly to have to trailer my tires someplace else to heatcycle them. I also
>fall into the procrastinator category sometimes.
>
>Overall, we really don't mind if you use our heatcycling or not. But
>heatcycling does work and is worth your time or money however you decide to
>do it.
>
>Now a question for Paul Foster. How do you find time to heatcycle tires and
>still make the top ten posters too? With the time we could save you, you
>could be #1!
>
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