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Re: ES: 94+ Celica ST vs. GT

To: richj50@bit-net.com, autox@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: ES: 94+ Celica ST vs. GT
From: Popsracr@aol.com
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 18:54:10 EDT
In a message dated 4/23/99 11:25:03 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
richj50@bit-net.com writes:

> Which would make a better ES car?  Lighter but less powerful with smaller
>  wheels, or more powerful with wider wheels but 200+ lbs heavier and less
>  well balanced?
>  
>  Are the national standings for HS and ES for 97 & 98 misleading because of
>  differences in driver talent, or will these cars be equally competitive in
>  ES?  Or is the ST actually faster than the GT as the 97/98 standings
>  suggest?
>  
Ooooooooh! OK!  Here we go Per!  The ES GT is significantly faster than the 
ST.  It's got more hp, torque, better gearing, wider wheels, only 1 catalytic 
convertor on the 94's vs 2 on all ST's and benefits from exhaust changes 
better.  It's slightly heavier but also has a stiffer chassis due to the 
stock strut brace and has better brakes with disks in the rear.

ES and HS ran on different days last year and that makes comparison between 
them tougher since the concrete was breaking up badly throughout the day and 
refilled every night or early morning essentially making the surface 
different for each day.

Basically the GT is the better ES car right from the beginning and has the 
ability to beat the ST at every event.  The ST is truly an HS car and will 
virtually disappear from competition when it goes to ES.  It's a shame that 
such a nice car will go to the netherworld of "used to be competitive" cars.

Now some people would argue that it's faster in Topeka so that must mean it 
should get reclassed.  That means they're setting the rules for car classing 
based on one event and one location.

Jim

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