John,
You beat me to the punch! Much as my ego hates to see a special "advantage"
for women (I'm a young white male... the downtrodden minority!) there needs
to be a way to showcase the talents of women drivers in order to get them
accepted in the mainstream of motorsport. Who knows, when that happens then
those of us with more ego than talent will have to stay home and watch on
ESPN2 (don't get Speedvision yet :(
With the exception of Denise McCluggage, Shirley Muldowny and Lynn St James
I personally can't think of any other prominant female drivers (outside of
autocross). Yet all three of those ladies have proven that they can
compete SUCCESSFULLY with their male counterparts. Given the right cars of
course.
So let 'em have their own series for now. Just tell the big boys they're
coming..... the times will change... hopefully the women will remove the
ego from the sport... not gain their own. :-)
<rant mode off>
Jim
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Moore, John [SMTP:jmoore@spyglass.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 10:59 AM
> To: autox@autox.team.net
> Subject: RE: Image Awareness (aww, how cute)
>
> So Bryan, why do you seem to have a fear of allowing women to gain
> experience in road racing without the BS that many men, such as yourself,
> seem to give women? Are you just afraid that when women get a few years of
> experience without the usual BS that they might actually be BETTER than
> the
> men who had to deal with each others over inflated ego's? I wish there was
> a
> series like this for MEN as well where the SAME qualification methods
> where
> used. Weed out the ego monsters, weed out the bad tempers and build a race
> series where racing can just be racing instead of some stupid ego trip for
> a
> few idiots who decide that they don't like you so they are going to run
> you
> off the track. Take a look at most professional race series today, show me
> a
> series that isn't 40% over inflated ego's who will do anything to win,
> including taking out a superior competitor just because they are faster
> and
> then calling it a "racing incident".
> A womens race series is exactly what is needed in
> motorsports today. I equate it, in some respects, with the old Negro
> league
> baseball teams. They didn't get a fair shake in the mainstream major
> leagues, so they started thier own, worked hard and built teams that where
> superior to the mainstream major league baseball. At that point the major
> league teams took notice and realized that to have some of the best
> players
> they had to remove thier prejudice's and just play baseball. Let's hope
> that
> in a few years, with Women in thier own series, that they can gain the
> expertise it takes to actually deflate some of these inflated egos, stop
> the
> prejudice against women in motorsports, and make them realize that there
> are
> things that women can do just as well as men.
> Let's just remember, while men and women are different,
> there are some things that both can do equally if given the chance. There
> are even some things men are better at and some things women are better
> at.
> Accept that we can be different and equal and life is much simpler!
>
> Just my Never to be Humble opinion.
>
> John Moore
> 1993 Toyota MR NA (CS #55)
> 1981 VW Scirocco (ES_ST #472)
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DirtyDogg1@aol.com [SMTP:DirtyDogg1@aol.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 1999 8:58 PM
> > To: autox@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Image Awareness (aww, how cute)
> >
> > rikracer@cwix.com
> > "This series is simply a place for some excellent women drivers to
> > showcase
> > their talent and maybe actually get a big time pro ride out of it.
> >
> > jmoore@spyglass.com
> > "Men are different than Women when it comes to competition. Fact is, in
> > many
> > sports, women CAN compete on the same level as men, especially in
> > motorsports..."
> >
> >
> > AHAHAHA what a crock. If you're good, you're good. If women can
> compete
> > on
> > the same level as men, keep them at the same level. IMO, it takes away
> > from
> > women's credibility when you take them out and place them in an entirely
> > seperate league. It's all good and great that women are getting into
> the
> > sport, but the need to take all women and place them aside, and in a
> > different
> > catagory, says to everyone "Hey, look at me, I'm not good enough to be
> in
> > the
> > OTHER league, so they stuck me here." Showase your talent with everyone
> > else,
> > and then if you are good enough to come out on top, it would stand out
> so
> > much
> > more and have more of an impact.
> > jmoore@spyglass.com---"There are womens basketball leagues, womens
> > softball
> > leagues, even womens hockey leagues" You can't compare softball to
> > baseball,
> > or in fairness women's basketball to men's basketball, and CERTAINLY not
> > women's hockey to men's hockey. "Men are different than Women when it
> > comes
> > to competition" Please, explain to me exactly how much different a
> woman
> > drives a car compared to a man. "I think that you may find that, there
> > would
> > not be much difference between the men and women when they are equally
> > experienced at racing" That's exactly what I'm talking about, so
> again,
> > WHY
> > SEPERATE???
> >
> > "Anyway, apparently, you undergo a series of tests at the tryouts. How
> > you perform on the track is 50% of your score. They also test you for
> > your athletic ability, interview, and get this: image awareness."
> >
> > All I've got to say about this is wear something tight black and shiny.
> > (Gee,
> > that's got ALOT to do with racing). Whatever.
> >
> > Bryan
> >
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