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To: " alpine autox " <alpines@autox.team.net>, hillman@can-inc.com
Subject: Re: Starters
From: Bob Douglas <b_s_d@ureach.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 12:53:08 -0500
FYI - TSI Automotive makes gear reduction starters for British 
cars.  They list Hillman under the applications and say their 
1206-9a fits the series Alpines.   It's a high-end alternative, 
but wanted to mention it as an option.  Specs are available on 
their web site at:

http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com

Ted Schumacher, founder/owner, has a long track record in 
British car sales and competition.  He is a well respected 
supplier to the relatively small Triumph TR8 community.   No 
personal stake other than as a satisfied customers on some of 
my other Brit cars.

Regards, Bob Douglas
  




---- On Mon, 24 Mar 2003, Jan Eyerman (jan.eyerman@usa.net) 
wrote:

> The disk type commutator starters were Lucas replacements.
> 
> Jan
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> KKJ <kkj@privat.utfors.se> wrote:
> Still the modern starter are smaller and stronger. 
> 
> And that small bronze bearing that have to take the whole 
load. As an engineer
> I have an unpleasant feeling about this. And that is also an 
important
> argument!!
> 
> It would be possibly to replace the bronze bearing with an 
roller bearing! 
> 
> The starter in my Imp 875 cc. is the same as in my 1725 
engines and the
> starter is really spinning that engine, but its 
not "spinning" the 1725
> engine. Its more like "dragging it around"
> 
> We have cold winters here.
> 
> I think I have 15 old type ( sliding gear engage by movement) 
starters. two of
> them can be used (I hope) as reserve. Rest is junk. Bronze 
bearing and
> commutator bad. (why haven't I get rid of them?)
> I also have 6 of the "solenoid engaged" from Hunters. They 
are OK every one.
> (Barrel commutator type). They seem to last better then the 
sliding gear. 
> Some of these Hunter starters are even bigger then the 
others. I don't know
> why. 
> The only disk commutator starter I have is from a Ford 
Cortina. On later
> Hunters and Avangers maybe??
> 
> The modern starter electrical motors are spinning faster 
because they have a
> reduction gear and as a result the electrical motor are 
smaller (Sometimes
> even smaller then the solenoid sitting beside it.) 
> Of course Lucas and others could have done this in the -50 -
60,  but the
> production cost to make the reduction gear was probably to 
high at that time.
> 
> Kristian J


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