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Hi John=20
First: Dale's right. If yo had to add fluid and re-bleed the system after y=
ou'd just bled it, where did the fluid go? The clutch hydraulic system is v=
ery short so it won't be hard to find. Make sure you pull back the carpet i=
n the foot well and check the master cylinder inside the firewall. That's w=
here you're most likely to see the leak.=20
If, when you say you added fluid, you really mean that you re-bled it just =
for the sake of trying it gain, and you are certain that there is no fluid =
leak or air in the system, then the hydraulic system is not the problem and=
the clutch most probably is. I wrote a lengthy posting about this a few mo=
nths ago in response to someone's similar symptoms: Clutch works OK when it=
's cold, but fails when it gets warm. The problem, barring a hydraulic issu=
e, is the clutch pressure plate. They've been known to fail when they get h=
ot due to poor metallurgy. I know of what I speak...trust me.=20
Use the middle hole on the release lever.=20
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To: 6pack@autox.team.net=20
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2. Re: 6pack Digest, Vol 20, Issue 2 (Ed McGuirk)=20
3. My darned clutch slave (John Summers)=20
4. LBC Show in North/Western NC next weekend (im sloane)=20
5. Re: My darned clutch slave (Dale)=20
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Message: 1=20
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2016 11:46:14 -0700=20
From: anabil007 <anabil007@comcast.net>=20
To: 6pack@autox.team.net=20
Subject: [6pack] Loctite 234227 LOC51048 Moly Paste Anti-Seize=20
Compound: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific=20
This stuff works great, of course you will have enough to do all the hub sp=
lines in the known universe.=20
I still have 90% left ?=20
> http://www.amazon.com/Loctite-234227-LOC51048-Anti-Seize-Compound/dp/B001=
HWBSJW/ref=3Dsr_1_25?ie=3DUTF8&qid=3D1460227433&sr=3D8-25&keywords=3Dspline=
+lubricant <http://www.amazon.com/Loctite-234227-LOC51048-Anti-Seize-Compou=
nd/dp/B001HWBSJW/ref=3Dsr_1_25?ie=3DUTF8&qid=3D1460227433&sr=3D8-25&keyword=
s=3Dspline+lubricant>=20
"Life is too short to drive boring cars"=20
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To: 6pack@autox.team.net=20
Subject: Re: [6pack] 6pack Digest, Vol 20, Issue 2=20
I don't know what the correct spec is but my general rule is that if it=20
is supposed to move, use grease; and if it is not supposed to move use=20
anti-seize. ( I get kind of annoyed at the people who demand only=20
grease where it should be anti-seize. And generally anti-seize is a very=20
poor grease substitute on moving parts.)=20
ed=20
However I believe the trunnion is supposed to use oil so what do I know?=20
On 4/9/2016 2:00 PM, 6pack-request@autox.team.net wrote:=20
> Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 22:43:32 -0400=20
> From: ron landis <rdltr250@sbcglobal.net>=20
> To: 6pack@autox.team.net=20
> Subject: [6pack] Wire wheel grease=20
>=20
> Listers Any recommendations for the type of lube to put on splines of wir=
e wheels would be appreciated=20
>=20
> Thanks=20
> Ron=20
>=20
>=20
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Message: 3=20
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 01:47:33 +0000 (UTC)=20
From: John Summers <rivers2hills@yahoo.com>=20
To: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net>=20
Subject: [6pack] My darned clutch slave=20
Message-ID:=20
<513783005.85365.1460252853724.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>=20
I'm wondering if there is anyone there:)) ?I changed my clutch slave cylind=
er and bled it. ?Went for a drive andafter sitting in a drive through a few=
minutes had a heck of a time getting it in gear. ?I learned a long time ag=
onot to take the car out of gear in situations like that. ?After some crunc=
hing of gears I got home. ?On adviceof one more experienced than me I re-bl=
ed the thing with my son pushing the pedal and me under the car.?Finally af=
ter seeing no more air bubbles and having a good amount of resistance I wen=
t for a short drive.Returning home and about to turn into my driveway I had=
to crunch the gears again. ?More fluid was added and?more pumping etc. I f=
elt confident. ?I got to the end of my street today before I had to do a U =
turn and come home.I wonder whats wrong? ? ?There are different spots on th=
e rod into the slave and frankly I don't remember?which hole I have it set =
at. ?Would changing that make a difference? ?Should I go to the hole nearer=
theslave or father awa=20
y, should it come to that. ?Ideas, opinions, prayers??John Summers, ?Jackso=
nville Florida'74 TR 6=20
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Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 02:57:05 +0000=20
From: im sloane <im_sloane@hotmail.com>=20
To: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net>=20
Subject: [6pack] LBC Show in North/Western NC next weekend=20
Message-ID:=20
<SN1PR18MB019299DB9A9CA7FAB2D4FB6F8E930@SN1PR18MB0192.namprd18.prod.outlook=
.com>=20
Hey guys,=20
Anybody on-list close enough to come to North/Western NC next weekend? The =
Triumph Club of the Carolinas annual event 'The Gathering' is at Sheldon Vi=
neyards in Dobson, NC. Info at www.triumphclub.org<http://www.triumphclub.o=
rg>. It's a 3 day event, but Friday is mostly a self-guided tour around som=
e nice mountain and foot-hill back roads and Sunday morning is a really fun=
auto-cross. The main car show is all day Saturday of course. Just to be cl=
ear, this is April 15, 16, & 17. The vineyard is about 10 miles south of th=
e NC/VA line on I-77.=20
Maybe reply if you might be there. I will be as long as the weather is nice=
. I think I'll drive the Spit this year.=20
Sloane [😊]=20
69-Six=20
72-Spit=20
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To: John Summers <rivers2hills@yahoo.com>, "6pack@autox.team.net"=20
<6pack@autox.team.net>=20
Subject: Re: [6pack] My darned clutch slave=20
Message-ID:=20
<1422265785.153944.1460287133679.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>=20
John=20
The normal hole to use is the center hole.?=20
If you have had to add fluid after bleeding then where did the fluid go?? C=
heck to see where the fluid went.=20
One thought here is to safely jack the car up and see if you have excessive=
movement in the clutch fork. This can be done with the slave rod disconnec=
ted from the arm. A small piece of pipe may help for leverage to see if you=
feel a catch in the movement.? If so then you may have a broken pin in the=
clutch fork.=20
Dale=20
From: John Summers via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net>=20
To: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net>=20
Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 9:47 PM=20
Subject: [6pack] My darned clutch slave=20
I'm wondering if there is anyone there:)) ?I changed my clutch slave cylind=
er and bled it. ?Went for a drive andafter sitting in a drive through a few=
minutes had a heck of a time getting it in gear. ?I learned a long time ag=
onot to take the car out of gear in situations like that. ?After some crunc=
hing of gears I got home. ?On adviceof one more experienced than me I re-bl=
ed the thing with my son pushing the pedal and me under the car.?Finally af=
ter seeing no more air bubbles and having a good amount of resistance I wen=
t for a short drive.Returning home and about to turn into my driveway I had=
to crunch the gears again. ?More fluid was added and?more pumping etc. I f=
elt confident. ?I got to the end of my street today before I had to do a U =
turn and come home.I wonder whats wrong? ? ?There are different spots on th=
e rod into the slave and frankly I don't remember?which hole I have it set =
at. ?Would changing that make a difference? ?Should I go to the hole nearer=
theslave or father awa=20
y, should it come to that. ?Ideas, opinions, prayers??John Summers, ?Jackso=
nville Florida'74 TR 6=20
Thanks folks.=20
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div style=3D'font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; colo=
r: #000000'>Hi John<div><br></div><div>First: Dale's right. If yo had to ad=
d fluid and re-bleed the system after you'd just bled it, where did the flu=
id go? The clutch hydraulic system is very short so it won't be hard to fin=
d. Make sure you pull back the carpet in the foot well and check the master=
cylinder inside the firewall. That's where you're most likely to see the l=
eak.</div><div><br></div><div>If, when you say you added fluid, you really =
mean that you re-bled it just for the sake of trying it gain, and you are c=
ertain that there is no fluid leak or air in the system, then the hydraulic=
system is not the problem and the clutch most probably is. I wrote a lengt=
hy posting about this a few months ago in response to someone's similar sym=
ptoms: Clutch works OK when it's cold, but fails when it gets warm. The pro=
blem, barring a hydraulic issue, is the clutch pressure plate. They've been=
known to fail when they get hot due to poor metallurgy. I know of what I s=
peak...trust me. </div><div><br></div><div>Use the middle hole on the =
release lever.</div><div><br><br><hr id=3D"zwchr"><div style=3D"color:#000;=
font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helve=
tica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b>From: </b>6pack-request@autox.tea=
m.net<br><b>To: </b>6pack@autox.team.net<br><b>Sent: </b>Sunday, April 10, =
2016 4:13:58 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>6pack Digest, Vol 20, Issue 3<br><br>Sen=
d 6pack mailing list submissions to<br> =
6pack@autox.team.net<br><br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the=
World Wide Web, visit<br> h=
ttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack<br>or, via email, send a messag=
e with subject or body 'help' to<br> &nb=
sp; 6pack-request@autox.team.net<br><br>You can reach the person manag=
ing the list at<br> 6pack-ow=
ner@autox.team.net<br><br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so i=
t is more specific<br>than "Re: Contents of 6pack digest..."<br><br><br>Tod=
ay's Topics:<br><br> 1. Loctite 234227 LOC51048 Moly Paste Anti=
-Seize Compound:<br> Amazon.com: Industrial & =
Scientific (anabil007)<br> 2. Re: 6pack Digest, Vol 20, Issue 2=
(Ed McGuirk)<br> 3. My darned clutch slave (John Summers)<br>&=
nbsp; 4. LBC Show in North/Western NC next weekend (im sloane)<br>&nb=
sp; 5. Re: My darned clutch slave (Dale)<br><br><br>-----------------=
-----------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>=
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2016 11:46:14 -0700<br>From: anabil007 <anabil007@comca=
st.net><br>To: 6pack@autox.team.net<br>Subject: [6pack] Loctite 234227 L=
OC51048 Moly Paste Anti-Seize<br> =
Compound: Amazon.com: =
Industrial & Scientific<br>Message-ID: <733D9890-F01D-4FAE-8E3B-9566=
F080D802@comcast.net><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br>=
<br>This stuff works great, of course you will have enough to do all the hu=
b splines in the known universe.<br><br>I still have 90% left ?<br><br><br>=
> http://www.amazon.com/Loctite-234227-LOC51048-Anti-Seize-Compound/dp/B=
001HWBSJW/ref=3Dsr_1_25?ie=3DUTF8&qid=3D1460227433&sr=3D8-25&ke=
ywords=3Dspline+lubricant <http://www.amazon.com/Loctite-234227-LOC51048=
-Anti-Seize-Compound/dp/B001HWBSJW/ref=3Dsr_1_25?ie=3DUTF8&qid=3D146022=
7433&sr=3D8-25&keywords=3Dspline+lubricant><br><br><br>"Life is =
too short to drive boring cars"<br><br>Bill Pugh<br>1957 TR3 "Casper"?<br>T=
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te: Sat, 09 Apr 2016 18:10:06 -0400<br>From: Ed McGuirk <emcguirk@optonl=
ine.net><br>To: 6pack@autox.team.net<br>Subject: Re: [6pack] 6pack Diges=
t, Vol 20, Issue 2<br>Message-ID: <57097DBE.1030505@optonline.net><br=
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dwindows-1252; format=3Dflowed<br><br>I=
don't know what the correct spec is but my general rule is that if it <br>=
is supposed to move, use grease; and if it is not supposed to move use <br>=
anti-seize. ( I get kind of annoyed at the people who demand only <br=
>grease where it should be anti-seize. And generally anti-seize is a very <=
br>poor grease substitute on moving parts.)<br><br>ed<br><br>However I beli=
eve the trunnion is supposed to use oil so what do I know?<br><br>On 4/9/20=
16 2:00 PM, 6pack-request@autox.team.net wrote:<br>> Date: Fri, 8 Apr 20=
16 22:43:32 -0400<br>> From: ron landis <rdltr250@sbcglobal.net><b=
r>> To: 6pack@autox.team.net<br>> Subject: [6pack] Wire wheel grease<=
br>><br>> Listers Any recommendations for the type of lube to =
put on splines of wire wheels would be appreciated<br>><br>> Thanks<b=
r>> Ron<br>> <br>><br><br><br><br>-------------------------=
-----<br><br>Message: 3<br>Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 01:47:33 +0000 (UTC)<br>F=
rom: John Summers <rivers2hills@yahoo.com><br>To: "6pack@autox.team.n=
et" <6pack@autox.team.net><br>Subject: [6pack] My darned clutch slave=
<br>Message-ID:<br> <5137=
83005.85365.1460252853724.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com><br>Content-Type=
: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br><br>I'm wondering if there is anyone the=
re:)) ?I changed my clutch slave cylinder and bled it. ?Went for a drive an=
dafter sitting in a drive through a few minutes had a heck of a time gettin=
g it in gear. ?I learned a long time agonot to take the car out of gear in =
situations like that. ?After some crunching of gears I got home. ?On advice=
of one more experienced than me I re-bled the thing with my son pushing the=
pedal and me under the car.?Finally after seeing no more air bubbles and h=
aving a good amount of resistance I went for a short drive.Returning home a=
nd about to turn into my driveway I had to crunch the gears again. ?More fl=
uid was added and?more pumping etc. I felt confident. ?I got to the end of =
my street today before I had to do a U turn and come home.I wonder whats wr=
ong? ? ?There are different spots on the rod into the slave and frankly I d=
on't remember?which hole I have it set at. ?Would changing that make a diff=
erence? ?Should I go to the hole nearer theslave or father awa<br> y, =
should it come to that. ?Ideas, opinions, prayers??John Summers, ?Jacksonvi=
lle Florida'74 TR 6<br>Thanks folks.<br>-------------- next part ----------=
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2016 02:57:05 +0000<br>From: im sloane <im_sloane@hotmail.com><br>To:=
"6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net><br>Subject: [6pack] LB=
C Show in North/Western NC next weekend<br>Message-ID:<br>  =
; <SN1PR18MB019299DB9A9CA7FAB2D4FB6F8E930@S=
N1PR18MB0192.namprd18.prod.outlook.com><br>  =
; <br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"<br>=
<br>Hey guys,<br>Anybody on-list close enough to come to North/Western NC n=
ext weekend? The Triumph Club of the Carolinas annual event 'The Gath=
ering' is at Sheldon Vineyards in Dobson, NC. Info at www.triumphclub.org&l=
t;http://www.triumphclub.org>. It's a 3 day event, but Friday is mostly =
a self-guided tour around some nice mountain and foot-hill back roads and S=
unday morning is a really fun auto-cross. The main car show is all day Satu=
rday of course. Just to be clear, this is April 15, 16, & 17. The viney=
ard is about 10 miles south of the NC/VA line on I-77.<br><br><br>Maybe rep=
ly if you might be there. I will be as long as the weather is nice. I think=
I'll drive the Spit this year.<br><br><br>Sloane [&#X1f60a]<br><br>69-=
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16 11:18:53 +0000 (UTC)<br>From: Dale <tpdwinch@yahoo.com><br>To: Joh=
n Summers <rivers2hills@yahoo.com>, "6pack@autox.team.net"<br>&=
nbsp; <6pack@autox.team.net>=
<br>Subject: Re: [6pack] My darned clutch slave<br>Message-ID:<br> &nb=
sp; <1422265785.153944.1460287133679.=
JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"u=
tf-8"<br><br>John<br>The normal hole to use is the center hole.? <br><br>If=
you have had to add fluid after bleeding then where did the fluid go?? Che=
ck to see where the fluid went.<br><br>One thought here is to safely jack t=
he car up and see if you have excessive movement in the clutch fork. This c=
an be done with the slave rod disconnected from the arm. A small piece of p=
ipe may help for leverage to see if you feel a catch in the movement.? If s=
o then you may have a broken pin in the clutch fork.<br><br>Dale<br><br>&nb=
sp; From: John Summers via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.ne=
t><br> To: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net> <br>=
Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 9:47 PM<br> Subject: [6pack] My da=
rned clutch slave<br> <br>I'm wondering if there is anyone ther=
e:)) ?I changed my clutch slave cylinder and bled it. ?Went for a drive and=
after sitting in a drive through a few minutes had a heck of a time getting=
it in gear. ?I learned a long time agonot to take the car out of gear in s=
ituations like that. ?After some crunching of gears I got home. ?On adviceo=
f one more experienced than me I re-bled the thing with my son pushing the =
pedal and me under the car.?Finally after seeing no more air bubbles and ha=
ving a good amount of resistance I went for a short drive.Returning home an=
d about to turn into my driveway I had to crunch the gears again. ?More flu=
id was added and?more pumping etc. I felt confident. ?I got to the end of m=
y street today before I had to do a U turn and come home.I wonder whats wro=
ng? ? ?There are different spots on the rod into the slave and frankly I do=
n't remember?which hole I have it set at. ?Would changing that make a diffe=
rence? ?Should I go to the hole nearer theslave or father awa<br> y, s=
hould it come to that. ?Ideas, opinions, prayers??John Summers, ?Jacksonvil=
le Florida'74 TR 6<br>Thanks folks.<br>____________________________________=
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