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Re: [6pack] Different Toyota Brake upgrade???

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Subject: Re: [6pack] Different Toyota Brake upgrade???
From: "oliver" <sumton@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:01:57 -0600
the morgan rear brake cylinders are also a drop in replacement.  and likely 
the same as the tiger ones.

i have them on my car.  had to upgrade the front pads and then balance the 
system.  car stops really well.  of course, the tires are fat and sticky.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Navarrette, Vance" <vance.navarrette@intel.com>
To: <6pack@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: [6pack] Different Toyota Brake upgrade???


> Folks:
>
> Thought I would stir the "pot" on this topic a bit. (Har-har-har. I crack
> myself up.)
>
> There are two reasons to upgrade the brakes on a TR6 - short stopping
> distances and improved fade resistance. The 4 pot front upgrade almost
> exclusively upgrades the latter. What most of us street drivers want is
> shorter stopping distances - and upgrading the front brakes is marginal 
> for
> that.
> The OEM TR6 brakes easily lock the front wheels and thus are ample to 
> extract
> maximum work from the front tires during a panic stop. This is the issue -
> extracting maximum work from the tires. This is because it is the TIRES 
> that
> stop the car. The brakes stop the WHEELS and after that your life and car 
> are
> in the arms of Saint Goodyear (Or Saint Yokohama, or....)
> Ahem. So here is what I have found on the web - that there is a good deal 
> of
> remaining work that can be extracted from the rear tires, even when the 
> front
> wheels have locked. This is because the rear braking is deliberately tuned 
> to
> avoid a spin. Triumph was conservative in their tuning, and the rear 
> brakes
> can be made considerably more aggressive with little risk. Or so I have 
> read.
> To measurably improve stopping distances one needs to make the rear brakes
> more aggressive. Two ways to do this on the cheap - friction material or
> higher applied force on the brake shoes. A quick and easy upgrade to the 
> rear
> brakes is to fit the brake cylinders for the Sunbeam Tiger to the TR6 rear
> end. They are a drop in replacement, with larger bores so that higher 
> force is
> applied to the shoes. This in turn extracts more work from the rear tires 
> and
> shortens braking distances. If you want improved street performance, the 
> rear
> brake cylinder upgrade is an easy, cheap, effective mod with no machining
> required.
> Now, have I personally tried this? No - it falls into the "I read this, 
> and
> have always wanted to try it" category. Is anyone out there interested in
> trying this and reporting back their impressions? It would be a great bit 
> of
> tech stuff on the cheap....
>
> Vance
>
>    Vance Navarrette 
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