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Re: Re: 16" wheels and tires

To: "Timothy Holbrook" <tjh173@yahoo.com>, <6pack@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Re: 16" wheels and tires
From: "Lozano's" <jmlozano@ismi.net>
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 11:34:41 -0400
I am running 215x55x16 Kuhmo tires on Panasport wheels.
I just got off the phone with Richard Good (super nice guy), we talked about
the rubbing problem I have.  We came to the many guess-conclusions but the
best one is that when I set the Koni shocks I might have set the front
driver side (rubbing side) to the softest setting instead of the hardest.  I
can easily feel a different bounce between the driver side and the passenger
side.  The other conclusion is that the car does not want to autocross, it
just wants to ride around looking pretty.

I love the look of the 215 but I am seriously considering changing to a 205.

Jorge

----- Original Message -----
From: Timothy Holbrook <tjh173@yahoo.com>
To: <6pack@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 2:13 PM
Subject: Fwd: Re: 16" wheels and tires


> I would think that 205/55-16 or 205/60-16 is the way to go for tire
> size on a 16" wheel.  There's a lot of tire selection in 205/55-16
> because that's an OE size on many sporty cars.  I really don't think a
> TR6 needs more than a 205 width tire.  But that's just my opinion.
> Plus I'm wondering if you would get rubbing problems in the rear with
> wider tires if you had tube shocks...  I run 205/65-15 on my car.
> These tires are a bit shorter than stock, but I think it looks really
> good.  Makes it look more aggressive, without giving the car that
> floating look that can happen when you go to a tire that's too short
> (yielding a giant gap between the tire and the fender).
>
> Jorge Lozano, a fellow lister, also has the Goodparts springs and 16"
> Panasports.  He had some rubbing problems up front, but I believe his
> tires were taller than 205/55.  Care to share, Jorge?
>
> Tim Holbrook
> 1971 TR6
>
>
> --- Chuck Arnold <Chuck.Arnold@oracle.com> wrote:
> > Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 08:24:31 -0700
> > From: Chuck Arnold <Chuck.Arnold@oracle.com>
> > To: Ryan Miles <rjhmile@yahoo.com>, 6pack
> > <6pack-digest@autox.team.net>
> > Subject: Re: 16" wheels and tires
> >
> > Are these both front and rear springs?  What is the height of the
> > front
> > springs before they are in the car?  The ones I got from Moss were
> > 9.5",
> > stock is about 10.0x.  My rears I got too long ago to know the
> > unsprung
> > height, but the rear of the car is 1" lower than the front.  So I got
> > advice from Bob Lang.  In summary, here is what he said:
> > 1. The rear should end up a little higher than the front so when
> > accelerating and "squatting" the height is about neutral.  To get the
> > rear higher you can lower the front [to some extrent] or add spacers
> > to
> > the rear  [TRF sells 1/2, 3/4, 1 inch spacers, around $22/pair].
> > 2. To lower the front:
> >     a. Shorter springs [but the ones I have are the shortest I could
> > get];
> >     b. Do not use the rubber or plastic caps on the top and bottom of
> > the springs, will give up to 1/2 inch lower [I shaved mine, but am
> > now
> > going to remove and see where we are]
> >     c. Lower the perch the spring sits on in the lower A arm by
> > making a
> > spacer to sit between the arm and the bracket [the one held by 6
> > bolts].  Note, the inner most ones are studs and only about 1/4"
> > spacer
> > can be inserted and still get a nut on the studs; the studs could be
> > replaced by a bolt to get more length].  I am going to investigate
> > doing
> > this.
> >
> > You will also have to pay attention to the camber resulting from
> > shorter
> > tires and may have to add shims in the front and flip/change brackets
> > on
> > the rear trailing arm.
> >
> > The 45/205/16s are almost two inches shorter than the 205/65/15s I
> > had
> > on the front.  They are 23.25 diameter.  I got 205/45s all the way
> > around.  In retrospect I wish I had gotten the wider [225/50/16's] on
> > the rear.  They would be 24.86 in diameter.  This would have made the
> > back about a half inch higher than the front without spacers which
> > would
> > have been perfect.  As you stated, the 225 look too big for the
> > front,
> > but they would fit well in the rear I think.  Note, stock diameter is
> > about 25.25, so no matter what you do the speedo will be off [mine is
> > way off due to the tranny I have anyway, so I get mph from the rpms
> > --
> > got a little cheat sheet pasted to the speedo showing speed by rpm by
> > gear].
> >
> > The 205/45/16's look very short.  Can hardly wait to get them on the
> > track.  Got to get the brakes right and the suspension geometry
> > worked
> > out first.
> >
> > Hope that helps.
> > Chuck
> >
> > Ryan Miles wrote:
> >
> > > Chuck,
> > >
> > >     I have Richard Good's springs which are supposed to lower the
> > car
> > > 1 to 1 1/2 inches, and I have no idea what size tires to get so
> > that
> > > the car dosen't look bad. You are the only other person I have seen
> > > with a lowered car and 16" panasports. How do the 205/45/16's look?
> > I
> > > was worried that a 45 series would look too small... What do you
> > > think? Right now I have the 16's on my TR6 which has stock
> > suspension,
> > > and my tire size is 225/60/16. These appear to be a little too wide
> > in
> > > the front, but about perfect in the back. I think I will probably
> > try
> > > 215's next, I justhavn't decided on the sidewall yet.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > >    Ryan Miles
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