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From: James Hickman <jrhickmansevier@gmail.com> <br>
Date: 11/13/2015 4:12 AM (GMT-05:00) <br>
To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America <zmagnette@autox.team.net> <br>
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<p dir="ltr">I hate to blow your curve and I know I don't post much but I will be 42 in January. I got my first MG at the age of 30 and I let my last modern car go about five years ago. My wife drives a newer car but I drive my '72 GT in nice weather and my
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<p dir="ltr">James R. Hickman, Jr.<br>
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<div class="x_gmail_quote">On Nov 12, 2015 11:52 AM, "Gene deRuelle" <<a href="mailto:deruelle@att.net">deruelle@att.net</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">
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<div>OK, so who on the list is under 56? How many are over my age of 76?</div>
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<div>Welcome to the real MG's have 4 doors group. I am the teenager in this wily old group at 64 lol. Have a 74.5 BGT that is still being restored but is on the road and about 95% done. A 70B Heritage body shell that my wife claims is hers and "Jeanne" our
family car. She is a 58 ZB steel blue and gets the best awards at car shows. Named after my 92 year old Mother.</div>
<div>Your collection is impressive. Good luck and Safety Fast!</div>
<div>Jim in Pennsylvania </div>
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Date: 11/11/2015 12:44 AM (GMT-05:00) <br>
To: <a href="mailto:slilves@sbcglobal.net" target="_blank">slilves@sbcglobal.net</a>
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<div>Your racing pedigree deserves respect, and you have mine! ' Never raced. ' Did a bit of autocrossing many years ago - only to discover that under pressure of competition, I lose all respect for the machine, and just run it balls to the wall. ' Surprised
I didn't destroy my poor old '73 B/GT; but I did learn that I have the wrong temperament for competitive driving.
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<div>We have some inventory in common: I'm putting my '65 B together. It was a basketcase I bought in '89, and it has yet to see the road. A few other projects intervened, including my '57 ZBV Magnette. ' Have never had a TF but did have a TD for several years.
Like you, age has been an increasing factor. I still can get up and down from my creeper a dozen times per hour while working on the MGs, but with age 76 coming up in a couple weeks, can't help but wonder how long this will last. I'm having to adjust my attitude:
if I can do it today, that's all I need to know. Once I finish the '65, the '60 A 1600 and the '69 C/GT are next. I'll be darned if my long range plans should be limited by my long range prognosis (and even that looks pretty good). I've known guys restoring
these cars well into their 90s - why give up 15 years short of that? Nevertheless, old age sucks, as I'm sure you'll agree.
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<div>OK, so my B/GT is a '73, but I do have a '69 C/GT. OK, not even close, but I got the year right, and I love the car. It's been lurking in the back of my shop for seven years, but recently, courtesy of Robert Kirk, it has brakes! Drives great around the
yard. A few new switches and I can at least drive it.</div>
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<div>In the meantime, my recently-restored Magnette keeps presenting me with nagging new and continuing problems. Clutch is leaking down internally, so I've got an M/C problem. Not really major, except I'm not looking forward to pulling the damn thing.
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<div>In the meantime, my daily-driver '73 GT has a cracked head - again... I've run it on the cracked head for perhaps a year. It really runs well. Fast enough to put the proverbial smile on my face, but I have to address that head! And since I'm thinking
of something akin to a Burgess econotune head, I think I'll have to go through the bottom end again too. ' Rebuilt the whole thing back in '92 but oil pressure doesn't go to 75# any more... There's a bit of magic going on in this old cracked head. ' Have
no idea what it is, but don't want to lose it in the replacement. ' Might pick your brain a bit if you don't mind.</div>
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<div>At any rate, welcome again! So glad to see new folks respond so quickly. ' Look forward to your presence on the list.</div>
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<b>To: </b>"Steve" <a href="mailto:skirby210@cox.net" target="_blank">mailto:skirby210@cox.net</a>, "Prentiss Kirk"
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<div>Wow! Appears you guys are really MG fans, a really good thing.</div>
<div>In the early 70's I raced one of the E Production Huffaker MGB’s in the Cal .Club region of the SCCA, so how about “Racer Steve?”</div>
<div>My first car was a 1955 TF, which I still have. We're in the process of getting it back together after way too many years of “rest.”</div>
<div>I also have a ‘65 MGB that I built up while working at Huffaker Engineering. It's overdue for a freshening up, a ‘69 BGT that needs a complete restoration, a “55 ZA Magnetite that's in line after the TF, and I’m almost done with my “62 Mini Countryman.
I just hope I live long enough to get them all done and don't run out of $$$.</div>
<div>Looking forward to meeting everyone on the “List.”</div>
<div>Cheers,</div>
<div>Racer Steve</div>
<div>PS: I also raced a Formula Atlantic car way back then, and more recently a “65 Mini Cooper S and a Turner MKIII that I just sold. Probably won’t race any more due to back and shoulder problems (too dam old!)</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 10, 2015 7:15 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:skirby210@cox.net" target="_blank">Steve</a><br>
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<div>What about Steve Martin? Isn’t he a member too? 8->
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<div>On Nov 10, 2015, at 7:13 PM, Steve via Thelist <<a href="mailto:thelist@zmgna.org" target="_blank">thelist@zmgna.org</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div>and that’s off the top of my head . . . w/o looking at a roster</div>
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<div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 10, 2015 6:11 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:bachldrs@comcast.net" target="_blank">bachldrs@comcast.net</a></div>
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<div>Welcome to the party Steve! Now all you have to do is figure out Steve-what would you like to be called - we have a Steve H (me), a Steve T, a #1Steve K. (Kaufman), a #2Steve K. (Kirby, really a #1 kinda guy), let's see... Who am I leaving out... a bunch
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<b>To: </b>"Mike" <<a href="mailto:mikesmuseum@yahoo.com" target="_blank">mikesmuseum@yahoo.com</a>><br>
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<div>We have extra doors if anyone needs them. Welcome Steve , YA another CA member</div>
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I'd like to add Steve Lilves in Corte Madera, CA to our merry band. Steve has a long-term ZA project car, plus an assortment of spare pieces. I'm pretty sure he has a spare set of all four doors that he'd be willing to sell, for example.<br>
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