<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>I have owned MGs since 1956, a VERY long time.... That being said --- I never owned a rubber bumper B. So, this photo is showing something I never noticed before. What is the plug for in the thermostat housing? Arch<br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On May 17, 2014, at 9:55 PM, charles durning <<a href="mailto:durningcharles@gmail.com">durningcharles@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>FYI on a replacement therm housing. The ones that I have found for the Magnette direct the outlet slightly towards the radiator making the hose bend at awkward angles to get around the cross bar. What I used was a therm housing for a '77 through '80 MGB. I just cut off the bracket. Now the outlet points slightly rearward making an easy fit for the top hose. Here are some pics the upper hose is a Dayco 71325. The dayco hose has all of the right bends for a kink free upper hose.</div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Jon Marino <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jonnyprecious@comcast.net" target="_blank">jonnyprecious@comcast.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Thanks FRM,<br>
<br>
It took me about an hour, but I basically had to chisel off the housing<br>
carefully, piece by piece. After I soaked it all in penetrating lubricant, I<br>
removed the studs (carefully...and I mean carefully, using a vise grip)<br>
after I got that particular piece of the housing off. There was no<br>
thermostat in there, which surprised me, so now I am wondering how to flush<br>
this baby out. Any suggestions would be awesome.<br>
<br>
Jon M.<br>
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Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 15:53:38 -0400<br>
From: Fletcher Millmore <<a href="mailto:gofanu@cust.usachoice.net">gofanu@cust.usachoice.net</a>><br>
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Jon-<br>
The problem arises because water has seeped past the gasket and into the<br>
stud holes, causing corrosion. The corrosion products are bigger than the<br>
metal they start as, so form an expanding wedge against the studs - it has<br>
been known to split the housing.<br>
Remove all 3 nuts/washers.<br>
Penetrant into holes, which you will see are full of white stuff, if you are<br>
lucky not all 3!<br>
It is worth trying some heat from a propane torch on the housing, and<br>
tapping on the housing with a soft hammer.<br>
You will see if any of the studs are not in this condition.<br>
You can put nuts on the studs and tap sideways on them, to move each stud<br>
individually in the hole.<br>
You can double nut the studs and remove them, if they move, BUT:<br>
Do not remove more than one until you can move all 3; people sometimes get<br>
two out, with it still seized on the third, which is when they break the<br>
stud off in the head, or break the housing.<br>
If you get one out,. clean the stud and the hole, them put it back in until<br>
you work the others free.<br>
It sometimes takes quite a bit of this fiddling in bad cases.<br>
Patience and repetition are good - brute force is a disaster.<br>
<br>
(I did have one epic case of a cast iron Spridget housing that had to be<br>
carved off with a chisel!)<br>
<br>
Once you get it off, you will see that there is a very narrow edge that<br>
seals between the stud holes and the thermostat bore, and the housing is<br>
usually corroded here.<br>
All this is the result of poor gaskets, poorly fitted over the years.<br>
The Magnette housing is not common to many other cars in the US, so getting<br>
another is hard, and impossible for a new one.<br>
AND, the replacement gaskets are nowhere near the quality the OE were - and<br>
the OE were nearly always installed incorrectly and overtightened to failure<br>
point.<br>
SO, this is one of very few places I use LocTite Gasket eliminator or RTV<br>
silicon instead of a gasket. Use it sparingly, but pay attention to that<br>
narrow edge.<br>
Coat the studs with Anti-Seize compound before assembly.<br>
<br>
FRM<br>
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On 5/17/2014 11:08 AM, Jon Marino wrote:<br>
> Hi folks,<br>
><br>
> Is there a trick to removing the elbow water outlet (thermostat<br>
> housing, I<br>
> think) that's part of the cooling system? It just seems like it's<br>
> stuck on the engine permanently.<br>
><br>
> Thanks,<br>
><br>
> Jon M.<br>
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> On May 17, 2014, at 12:12 AM, Steve wrote:<br>
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>> Please welcome Peter Ferrer to our Merry Magnettic Band. Peter has a<br>
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> ZB Varitone (that?s redundant, eh). We been working together trying<br>
> to solve some wiring harness issues.<br>
>><br>
>> So, Chris K and Allen B . . . . is he in! or, is there something else<br>
>> I<br>
> need to do, like pay his lifetime membership fee in vintage headlight<br>
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> Please welcome Peter Ferrer to our Merry Magnettic Band. Peter has a<br>
> 58 ZB Varitone (that?s redundant, eh). We been working together<br>
> trying to solve some wiring harness issues.<br>
><br>
> So, Chris K and Allen B . . . . is he in! or, is there something else<br>
> I need to do, like pay his lifetime membership fee in vintage headlight<br>
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> Please welcome Peter Ferrer to our Merry Magnettic Band. Peter has a<br>
> 58 ZB Varitone (that?s redundant, eh). We been working together<br>
> trying to solve some wiring harness issues.<br>
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> So, Chris K and Allen B . . . . is he in! or, is there something else<br>
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Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 19:03:27 -0400<br>
From: Allen Bachelder <<a href="mailto:bachldrs@comcast.net">bachldrs@comcast.net</a>><br>
To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America<br>
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Subject: [Zmagnette] Oops - sorry. Was: Slightly OT-Carpet adhesive,<br>
now: Stator Tube Wiring<br>
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Zat better? ;-)<br>
<br>
Allen<br>
<br>
On May 17, 2014, at 3:22 PM, Steve wrote:<br>
<br>
> guys! Change the subject line : )<br>
><br>
> From: John Park<br>
> Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2014 5:58 AM<br>
> To: 'List for the Z Magnette Group - North America'<br>
> Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Slightly OT-Carpet adhesive<br>
><br>
> Another nice car!<br>
><br>
> From: <a href="mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net">zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net</a><br>
> [mailto:<a href="mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net">zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] On Behalf Of Allen Bachelder<br>
> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 10:46 PM<br>
> To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America<br>
> Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Slightly OT-Carpet adhesive<br>
><br>
> Hey, it's gorgeous - and it has... (count 'em) FOUR doors! And to boot,<br>
I'm gonna guess it's a flat-head six. The famous slant-six was still a few<br>
years off - think it came out in the '60 Valiant. But the old flathead<br>
served, at least as an option, all Chrysler products from about 1932 until<br>
1960 and labored on in a number of other applications for nearly another 20<br>
years. My first car was a '37 Plymouth. At a purchase price of $70 it<br>
didn't quite look like this one, but I loved it until I seriously redlined<br>
it in first coming home from school one day. It still ran...<br>
><br>
> Allen<br>
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> On May 16, 2014, at 4:57 PM, David F. Darby wrote:<br>
><br>
><br>
> Hello Allen,<br>
><br>
> >Oh man - a first-year Exner Mopar!<br>
><br>
> >David, is your Plymouth like this one? These were really timeless<br>
> >designs. I'd love to have one,<br>
><br>
> Close, but that?s a Belvedere hardtop; mine is a Savoy four-door post.<br>
Here it is under the locust. I suppose Virgil Exner and Gerald Palmer had a<br>
lot in common.<br>
><br>
> David<br>
><br>
> Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Slightly OT-Carpet adhesive <image002.jpg><br>
><br>
> On May 16, 2014, at 3:46 PM, David F. Darby wrote:<br>
><br>
> Not really OT, as it is generic, but I am fixing to install a new carpet<br>
kit in my dear old 1955 Plymouth Savoy (another staid old sedan/saloon).<br>
><br>
> I?m wondering if any of you have a favoured carpet adhesive or protocol<br>
you might suggest. I?ve just had very limited experience and I don?t want to<br>
botch it up.<br>
><br>
> I have a nice (although lightweight) loop carpet kit in two pieces (fore<br>
and aft) with bound edges and an attached pressed felt-like backing. I?m<br>
thinking I don?t want to weld it down and I?ll probably have to do a lot of<br>
fussing to get it all into place. Any suggestions as to brand or type of<br>
adhesive you?ve had good results with? Or does it need anything at all?<br>
><br>
> Thanks for any help.<br>
><br>
> Cheers,<br>
><br>
> David<br>
><br>
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