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<DIV>Well, once again I’ll dangle my toe into the pond, with the caveat
that I have yet to restore a Magnette. But, I have done other cars and
English cars, FWIW. This sounds to me like what this wonderful old English
mechanic (Mr. Tolley) described to me as “rear end steering”. Sounds
goofy, eh? I first discovered this phenomenon when I restored our
GT. I replaced and rebuilt EVERYthing. A complete nut and bolt
restoration. Yet, after a few trial runs, I think I have exactly what you
are describing.</DIV>
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<DIV>What “Mr. Tolley” told me, then showed me, was that a lot of the rear
rubber suspension bits, particularly the U bolts on the spring shackles, had
settled, and were pretty dang loose. We jacked the car up, and discovered
that virtually every nut or bolt having to do with rubber or similar
bushes/pads, etc. needed tightening up quite a bit. I was blown away that
the U bolt nuts were actually so loose I could tighten them with my
fingers. I KNOW I tightened all that stuff, to what seemed like “normal”
tightness. </DIV>
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<DIV>So, we did all that, took the car out for a test drive, and all was well,
and has remained fine ever since.</DIV>
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<DIV>What he explained is that the entire rear axle becomes loose to some
degree, and acts as a rear steering wheel—fighting what you are trying to do
with the steering wheel.</DIV>
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<DIV>Won’t cost much to check this out!</DIV>
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<DIV>#2SteveK</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=bachldrs@comcast.net
href="mailto:bachldrs@comcast.net">Allen Bachelder</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, May 11, 2014 8:36 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=zmagnette@autox.team.net
href="mailto:zmagnette@autox.team.net">zmagnette</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> [Zmagnette] Road-Wandering Magnette</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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style='FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline'>Well,
Gang, we had a nice outing in "Geraldine" on Saturday - about 150 miles without
any problems. Except... an ongoing problem - exacerbated by some stiff
crosswinds: it tends to wander. I feel a bit of slop while trying to correct -
resulting in over-correction. I totally rebuilt the front end a year ago
this past winter and had it properly aligned. It does not pull at all in
either direction. The steering feels completely neutral. I neglected to
check my tyre inflation before setting out, but what would be the recommended
tyre pressures on a Magnette. Tyres are 165/80R15 Nexen SB-80s. I had them
set to 32# all way 'round. ' Wonder if they would do better at around 28# in
front. I have yet to replace the rear bushes and shox, and I'm thinking
there could be enough slop in the rear bushes to affect steering - but if so,
would I not also experience torque-steering? There is none. I mean
NONE.
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<DIV>All this leaves only the steering rack. I already replaced the tie
rod ends, and there is no slop in the king pins. Any ideas? My plan
is to go from easiest to hardest: (1) - set front tyres at 28#. (2) rebush
rear-end and replace rear shox, while making sure U-bolts are t-i-g-h-t. (3)
Rebuild/replace steering rack. I believe I can get a rebuilt rack from Lou for
£250 + core, which means I ship a steering rack round trip across the pond. At
current exchange rate the £250 turns into about $422.00 US plus lots 'n' lots of
shipping. What are my domestic alternatives? What's involved in
rebuilding a steering rack anyway?</DIV>
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<DIV>Thanks in advance, guys!</DIV>
<DIV>Allen<BR>
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