<div dir="ltr"><div>Sooo... I should just take my springs to a shop???</div><div> </div><div>Joel</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 9:01 PM, Steve <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:skirby210@cox.net" target="_blank">skirby210@cox.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>You guys have a heckuva lot better spring shops than we do around here, 
apparently.   I’ve used three different ones, all with bad results, 
and a lot of wasted $$ and time.</div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="mg1948@verizon.net" href="mailto:mg1948@verizon.net" target="_blank">John Marcell</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 03, 2014 5:46 PM</div><div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="zmagnette@autox.team.net" href="mailto:zmagnette@autox.team.net" target="_blank">List for the Z Magnette Group - North 
America</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Zmagnette] Rear Springs</div></div></div></div>
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<div>Had mine rearched in Dallas in a shop that still had dirt floors. A time 
warp, told the guy what I had & he told me he knew what I needed. Worked 
great & cost $30!  We're done using cold method vs heat which I read 
was best</div>
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<div>Phil<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div>
<div><br>On Apr 3, 2014, at 7:36 PM, Allen Bachelder <<a href="mailto:bachldrs@comcast.net" target="_blank">bachldrs@comcast.net</a>> 
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  <div>There was a time - back around 1980 as I recall when you could go to any 
  <u>good</u> spring shop and get a pair of leaf springs made up.  These 
  shops had all the factory data (spring rates, etc) on hand for just about any 
  car ever built.  They built a set of springs for my '53 Plymouth project 
  that were perfect.  ' Guess those shops have gone the way of ethyl gas 
  and the re-refined drain oil at 15 a quart that I preferred to burn in my '51 
  Chevy. 
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  <div>On Apr 3, 2014, at 7:49 PM, Arch Boston wrote:</div><br>
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    <div>Steve, the only metals I know anything about ... Gold, plat., and 
    silver.  Tho anneal silver to make it mailable it is heated to around 
    2000 degrees, cherry red.   3-400 degrees should do zip to 
    steel.  Wouldn't a few mile's abrasion - finished surface to finished 
    surface, a couple thousand miles at most, wear away the finish? So, you 
    would have simply metal to metal contact?  Arch<br><br>Sent from my 
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    <div><br>On Apr 3, 2014, at 11:58 AM, "Steve" <<a href="mailto:skirby210@cox.net" target="_blank">skirby210@cox.net</a>> 
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      <div>I’m interested in following the answers to this, as I’ve done 
      different things, none of which have seemed like a solution I feel 
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      <div>One question is:  what about powder coating?  Would seem to 
      be better than painting, and give some “lube” quality between the 
      leaves?  I’ve done this once, and it seemed to work OK, but then 
      others have said “the heat process ruined your springs.”   Don’t 
      know about that, from a practical standpoint . . .  the 
      car/springs/suspension “seem” fine.  I believe powder coating uses a 
      temp around 375 – 400ish.  That shouldn’t hurt the temper of springs 
      . . .  should it???</div>
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      <div>I tried putting some formed rubber “liners” between them, on the 
      recommendation of someone.  Done by some hot rodders, I guess.  
      Can’t say I liked the results.  Worked OK I guess, but looked like 
      crap . . . . they didn’t stay in place that well, so some edges were 
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      <div>I’ve also tried new springs, and that was the worst.  Car ended 
      up being jacked up way too high.  Have also had springs re-arced, and 
      not happy with that either . . . . car was then lopsided, and the spring 
      shop said, bascially, “that’s the way it goes, its not a perfect science, 
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      <div>All these experiences were “non” Magnettic, but the “issue” is the 
      same, eh?</div>
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      <div><b>From:</b> <a title="joel.turtleman@gmail.com" href="mailto:joel.turtleman@gmail.com" target="_blank">Joel 
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      <div><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 02, 2014 10:46 PM</div>
      <div><b>To:</b> <a title="zmagnette@autox.team.net" href="mailto:zmagnette@autox.team.net" target="_blank">List for the Z Magnette Group - 
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      <div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Zmagnette] Rear Springs</div></div></div>
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      <div>Thanks everyone. The rubber pieces I'm referring to is the inter leaf 
      and angle pads. I have Ed Sweeney's poly bushings for the spring eyes. I 
      have disassembled the springs and I think I need to protect the inside 
      from rust. Since there are rubber pads between the leaves, I'm thinking it 
      would be ok to paint between the leaves? Steve T, I will try that 
      program.</div>
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      <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Kelvin Dodd <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:doddk@mossmotors.com" target="_blank">doddk@mossmotors.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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        spring mounting pads are isolated from the frame of the car, so there is 
        no down side to using them. The replacement rubber pads are kinda 
        squishy (technical term), so I normally use and recommend poly. 
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        rear bushes are not the same as MGA/MGB, so you might have limited 
        alternatives. I used the poly bushings that Edwin Sweeney made up. They 
        fit perfectly and are not overly stiff. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">The 
        front spring eye bush is also unique to the Magnette and at the time I 
        worked on my car, the recommended replacement was the MGA front spring 
        eye bush. This is slightly larger in OD and uses a bigger through bolt. 
        I did find that a normal work bench vice will allow you to press this 
        bushing into the spring eye without too much trouble. Since this 
        conversion works well, I doubt if the Magnette unique spring bushes will 
        be reproduced. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt"> <a href="mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank">zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank">zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of 
        </b>David Halliday<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 02, 2014 12:51 
        PM<br><b>To:</b> List for the Z Magnette Group - North 
        America<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Zmagnette] Rear 
        Springs<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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        <p style="margin-bottom:12pt" class="MsoNormal">Hi 
        Joel,<u></u><u></u></p></div>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Some may disagree, but I would suggest going to 
        urethane bushes and spring pads as you change.<u></u><u></u></p>
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        regards,<br><br>David<br><br><u></u><u></u></p></div></div>
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        <p class="MsoNormal">On 2 April 2014 20:30, Steven Trovato <<a href="mailto:strovato@optonline.net" target="_blank">strovato@optonline.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Joel,<br><br>I don't have an answer for you about the 
        springs.  Hopefully, someone will provide you with an answer 
        soon.  As far as resizing photos, I use a program called irfanview 
        on my Windows 7 machine.  It is very popular, free, and available 
        here:  <a href="http://www.irfanview.com/" target="_blank">http://www.irfanview.com/</a>.  All you have to do is 
        image, resize, then save.  Of course the program has the capability 
        to do much more, but for a simple resize of a photograph, there's not 
        much to it.  I often also use the "crop" feature.  This 
        eliminates a lot of excess background, focuses attention on the 
        important part and makes the file smaller as a bonus.<br><br>-Steve 
        T.<u></u><u></u></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><br><br>At 02:43 PM 4/2/2014, Joel Johnson 
        wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">I am refreshing the rear springs on my Magnette 
        before installing them. Do I paint both sides of each leaf or put them 
        together and paint the outside? Also what about the rubber bits? They 
        need to be replaced. Thanks. There will be lots of questions to follow, 
        I have my Magnette back from body work and am putting it back together. 
        I'd send a photo, but I can't figure out how to reduce the file size for 
        email.<u></u><u></u></p>
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