<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif;font-size:10pt">There are places that will make spring gaiters for your car, to keep grease in and crud out. I think '50s Jaguars used them, for example. They function a bit like the boots on the steering rack. What could be cooler than a pair of laced-up leather gaiters around the leaf springs? Maybe you could get them dyed to match the interior! Of course, there's the expense, maintenance, and general nuisance of gaiters. Maybe that's why almost all leaf-sprung cars <span style="font-style: italic;">didn't</span> use them.<br><div><br><span></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Seriously, if something between the leaves would help reduce stiction and rust, why not anti-seize compound
instead of plain grease? Maybe Teflon sheets</span><span><span> between the leaves?</span> Or something similar - some high-density plastic, perhaps? Being less deformable than rubbery materials, the sheets shouldn't "squish out" from between the leaves. Anyone ever tried that?</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br><span></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Or maybe just a good coat of paint on each leaf, both sides, before assembly.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br><span></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0,
0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>That's one of the problems with a car that's this old and may have already been rebuilt one or more time. We really don't know how they did it originally, and they don't make 'em that way (leaf springs) anymore.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br><span></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>I wonder if the manufacturers do anything special to the leaves on half-ton pickups?<br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;
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<div>I’m interested in following the answers to this, as I’ve done different
things, none of which have seemed like a solution I feel comfortable
recommending.</div>
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<div>One question is: what about powder coating? Would seem to be
better than painting, and give some “lube” quality between the leaves?
I’ve done this once, and it seemed to work OK, but then others have said “the
heat process ruined your springs.” Don’t know about that, from a
practical standpoint . . . the car/springs/suspension “seem” fine. I
believe powder coating uses a temp around 375 – 400ish. That shouldn’t
hurt the temper of springs . . . should it???</div>
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<div>I tried putting some formed rubber “liners” between them, on the
recommendation of someone. Done by some hot rodders, I guess. Can’t
say I liked the results. Worked OK I guess, but looked like crap . . . .
they didn’t stay in place that well, so some edges were falling out, etc.</div>
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<div>I’ve also tried new springs, and that was the worst. Car ended up
being jacked up way too high. Have also had springs re-arced, and not
happy with that either . . . . car was then lopsided, and the spring shop said,
bascially, “that’s the way it goes, its not a perfect science, type
thing.”</div>
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<div>All these experiences were “non” Magnettic, but the “issue” is the same,
eh?</div>
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<div style=""><b>From:</b> <a rel="nofollow" title="joel.turtleman@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:joel.turtleman@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:joel.turtleman@gmail.com">Joel Johnson</a> </div>
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<div>Thanks everyone. The rubber pieces I'm referring to is the inter leaf and
angle pads. I have Ed Sweeney's poly bushings for the spring eyes. I have
disassembled the springs and I think I need to protect the inside from rust.
Since there are rubber pads between the leaves, I'm thinking it would be ok to
paint between the leaves? Steve T, I will try that program.</div>
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<div class="yiv5900100650gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Kelvin Dodd <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:doddk@mossmotors.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:doddk@mossmotors.com">doddk@mossmotors.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div class="yiv5900100650MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri", "sans-serif";COLOR:rgb(31,73,125);">The
spring mounting pads are isolated from the frame of the car, so there is no
down side to using them. The replacement rubber pads are kinda squishy
(technical term), so I normally use and recommend poly.
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<div class="yiv5900100650MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri", "sans-serif";COLOR:rgb(31,73,125);">The
rear bushes are not the same as MGA/MGB, so you might have limited
alternatives. I used the poly bushings that Edwin Sweeney made up. They fit
perfectly and are not overly stiff. <u></u><u></u></span></div>
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<div class="yiv5900100650MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri", "sans-serif";COLOR:rgb(31,73,125);">The
front spring eye bush is also unique to the Magnette and at the time I worked
on my car, the recommended replacement was the MGA front spring eye bush. This
is slightly larger in OD and uses a bigger through bolt. I did find that a
normal work bench vice will allow you to press this bushing into the spring
eye without too much trouble. Since this conversion works well, I doubt if the
Magnette unique spring bushes will be reproduced. <u></u><u></u></span></div>
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<div class="yiv5900100650MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri", "sans-serif";COLOR:rgb(31,73,125);">Kelvin.
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<div class="yiv5900100650MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Tahoma", "sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Tahoma", "sans-serif";"> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net">zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net</a> [mailto:<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net">zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>David
Halliday<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 02, 2014 12:51 PM<br><b>To:</b> List
for the Z Magnette Group - North America<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Zmagnette]
Rear Springs<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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Joel,<u></u><u></u></div></div>
<div class="yiv5900100650MsoNormal">Some may disagree, but I would suggest going to urethane
bushes and spring pads as you change.<u></u><u></u></div>
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regards,<br><br>David<br><br><u></u><u></u></div></div></div>
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<div class="yiv5900100650MsoNormal">On 2 April 2014 20:30, Steven Trovato <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:strovato@optonline.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:strovato@optonline.net">strovato@optonline.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv5900100650MsoNormal">Joel,<br><br>I don't have an answer for you about the
springs. Hopefully, someone will provide you with an answer soon.
As far as resizing photos, I use a program called irfanview on my Windows 7
machine. It is very popular, free, and available here: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.irfanview.com/">http://www.irfanview.com/</a>. All you have to do is
image, resize, then save. Of course the program has the capability to do
much more, but for a simple resize of a photograph, there's not much to
it. I often also use the "crop" feature. This eliminates a lot of
excess background, focuses attention on the important part and makes the file
smaller as a bonus.<br><br>-Steve T.<u></u><u></u></div>
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<div class="yiv5900100650MsoNormal"><br><br>At 02:43 PM 4/2/2014, Joel Johnson
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<div class="yiv5900100650MsoNormal">I am refreshing the rear springs on my Magnette before
installing them. Do I paint both sides of each leaf or put them together and
paint the outside? Also what about the rubber bits? They need to be replaced.
Thanks. There will be lots of questions to follow, I have my Magnette back
from body work and am putting it back together. I'd send a photo, but I can't
figure out how to reduce the file size for email.<u></u><u></u></div>
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