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Allen-<br>
No different to why your turn indicators slow down when the car is
idling with lots of whizzy eaters on.<br>
<br>
It can be informative to measure temperature at all connections and
breakers with an IR heat gun. Best with cover plates off the boxes.
It is common to have significant losses at main connections
especially, as in the service box; more so if they have not been
retightened after a period of use. Service cables are generally
aluminum, and the connections get loose over time, getting hot and
oxidising, which makes it worse. This is what OxGard was invented
for, but they still need periodic retightening. The heat can
eventually carbonise the plastic the parts are made of, which can
lead to a fire, or at least constantly tripping breakers and the
need for new service boxes. Correctly sized and tight connections
should be very near ambient, and everything with equal loads should
be about equal temp.<br>
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Also interesting to use an AC voltmeter at every possible point, as
loads come and go. You can find notable differences which can lead
to particular bad connections. Not to mention variance from the
power company. My "120/240" power typically is 122/244, but often
ranges 125/250 to 115/230.<br>
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I once investigated an industrial installation, recently done by a
"Master Electrician" - in a 440V system, I found around 404
delivered V, which pretty well explained poor equipment performance!
Finding the really bad connections was easy with the IR gun.<br>
<br>
FRM<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/24/2014 11:38 PM, Allen Bachelder
wrote:<br>
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<blockquote
cite="mid:5574E696-912C-4180-BE79-71E53D0A3D03@comcast.net"
type="cite">Wow, Mike,
<div>THAT is what I call a creative answer. My first instinct was
to try to relate the functions of the compressor and vacuum
cleaner. But as others have suggested, the "problem" is no
doubt electrical. For those concerned, I have 200 amp service
to my shop with #12 running to all 110 volt circuits and #10
running to the three 220 volt circuits. So I doubt if there is
any fire hazard. But with two 220-volt heaters already running
on separate 30-amp circuits, when the compressor kicks on (on a
third 30-amp circuit), there is indeed a barely-perceptible drop
in vacuum-cleaner motor speed. Without the heaters running, no
change is perceptible.</div>
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<div>That's all for today's "shop quiz". Mark B.: thanks for your
occasional added remarks. We appreciate them. ' Glad you're
listening!</div>
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<div>Cheers,</div>
<div>Allen<br>
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<div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff;
font-family:Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace,
sans-serif;font-size:10pt">Are the vacuum and compressor
sucking up air from the same enclosed space that is your
warm & snug shop? Do your ears pop if they both
start at the same time? I have a hard time believing
that the compressor lowers the shop's air pressure
enough to make the vacuum labor, but that's the only
other idea I have besides John's electrical load
explanation.<br>
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I suppose you could bring a barometer into the shop and
check the air pressure that way.<br>
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John Park <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:jpark@bmts.com">jpark@bmts.com</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b>
'List for the Z Magnette Group - North America'
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b>
Monday, February 24, 2014 3:51 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b>
Re: [Zmagnette] Your humble servant...<br>
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compressor draws too much current and
your wiring won’t support it. You could
be in for some overheated wire which
could lead to a fire. Best to get 200
amp service or at a minimum a separate
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Allen
Bachelder<br clear="none">
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 24,
2014 8:53 AM<br clear="none">
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Your humble servant...</span></div>
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<div class="yiv9633328324MsoNormal">Update:
' got both sides finished correctly
yesterday. </div>
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<div class="yiv9633328324MsoNormal">Here's
a little shop quiz (as opposed to pop
quiz) item for you. I figured it out
- let's see if you come up with the
same conclusion. I was bead-blasting
a hub yesterday. With outside temp
moderating to around 30º F ( -1º C),
my three little shop heaters make it
very comfortable to work out there.
I'm lovin' it! So, I'm bead-blasting
away and I note that whenever the
compressor cycles off, the vacuum
cleaner on my cabinet speeds up
slightly. Why? </div>
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