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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Reminds me of my shop manager at the
MG-Jaguar dealership I worked at: Jim was an excellent mechanic
and machinist, so when he decided to 'fix up' his Beetle he built
up a 2200cc VW with an Okrasa crank, Isky cam and a pair of Weber
IDFs. He did all the body work in metal using only a little lead
to hide the deep file marks, I told him he should clear coat it
and call it done it was absolutely stunning in metal. He decided
to drive the car to a shop that could 'squirt it cheap' - they
painted over a butterfly that was plastered on the hood on the
drive over.<br>
Perkins<br>
On 2/20/2014 2:58 PM, Steve Kirby wrote:<br>
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<div>I dunno about some of these so-called professionals. I think
the difference between a lot of folks on this group, is that we
are willing to admit we are amateur/novices/hobbyists . . .
whatever. We are very willing to learn and listen, however. </div>
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<div>This morning, I was trying to help a relatively new Club
member with the horrid mess he has gotten into having his MGB
body work and painting done. In short, one shop (Tim's), a
normally very good shop . . . .show cars, etc., did the body
work. They probably get upwards of $10K for a paint job, after
bodywork, etc. So, they sent him across the street, to a M__co
shop, previously owned by a "Bob". Apparently, at one time, Bob
and Tim had a good "working" realationship . . . I do this, you
do that . . . no words spoken. So, off it went to M__co, now
under the ownership of a Dennis (unbeknownest to our Club
member). My only involvement at this point was transporting the
car to and fro. When I helped pick up the "painted" car, I
immediately saw a zillion issues, but didn't say anything.
Eventually, the new member started asking pretty pointed
questions to me, and finally I pointed out (beyond the painted
dents and dings and . . . .. ) a lot of other horrid things . .
. no prep, other than maybe 36 grit on a DA sander, no color
sanding below the belt line (which he paid for), waves and rolls
in fendes, filler not blocked at all, welds not ground down,
drips and sags all over creation, but then a general lack of
paint in most places. A really @#$^& mess.</div>
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<div>Long story short, it becomes a "He said, She said" deal.
Each shop claims the mess is the other's responsibility. As of
today, it is being done over again, after much negotiating,
etc. Investment so far is about $4500sih. I can't believe
M__co could paint over all this stuff, and simply say "We
assumed the car was ready to paint, when it came from Tim."
It's like if a dog turd was sitting on the hood, they would have
just painted right over it. I think even Uncle Earl did better
than that.</div>
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<div>So much for professionals.</div>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color:
black"><b>From:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
title="bachldrs@comcast.net"
href="mailto:bachldrs@comcast.net">Allen Bachelder</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a
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href="mailto:zmagnette@autox.team.net">List for the Z
Magnette Group - North America</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February
20, 2014 12:33 PM</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Zmagnette]
Your humble servant...</div>
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Given my current geriatric state of mind, plus the fact that I'm
working so slowly I'll forget by the time I even correct this
side, let alone get to the other side, hey it could end up
SPACERS 4, ALLEN 0. I'll try to remember to report if I happen
to get it right. And all of this after being so careful to get
the shims perfect before packing the bearings. What, oh WHAT
was I thinking????
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<div>But isn't this part of the fun? Aren't these moments the
reason why we prefer to screw these things up ourselves rather
than hire some expert to get it right the first time - and in
about one-fourth the time anyway? We don't have to tell lies
when we kick tires together - the truth is good enough. And,
at least at my age, we can re-use these same stories year
after year and they'll be just as good because nobody will
remember anyway... Next Easter, I'm going to hide my own
eggs. <br>
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<div>On Feb 20, 2014, at 3:01 PM, Steve Kirby wrote:</div>
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<div>actually, since there are two sides: Spacers 2
. . . . Allen 0. But, maybe Allen caught on
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title="schris51@att.net"
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b><span
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title="zmagnette@autox.team.net"
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday,
February 20, 2014 6:57 AM</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re:
[Zmagnette] Your humble servant...</div>
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<div>Spacer 1</div>
<div>Allen 0<br>
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Sent from my iPhone</div>
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On Feb 19, 2014, at 7:44 PM, Allen Bachelder
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:bachldrs@comcast.net">bachldrs@comcast.net</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div>reassembling his MGB...
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<div>"Nonsense," said Allen, "first the
distance piece, and THEN the inner bearing
and seal."</div>
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<div>' Guess that's what those spare FWB seals
are for...</div>
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