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<DIV><FONT size=4>Sounds to me like a good excuse for a serious drink. Don’t
know any other way to see the light so to speak, except when moved by some good
single malt.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=steve@betterwitnesses.com
href="mailto:steve@betterwitnesses.com">Steve Hanegan</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 17, 2014 4:16 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=zmagnette@autox.team.net
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America</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Zmagnette] Wiring problem</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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it is a harness from British Auto Wiring or Autosparks, it will precisely match
the schematic right down to the proper terminations on the wires... I have
installed nearly a dozen from both sources and they are uncanny in their
accuracy. Though it never hurts to verify grounds!
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<DIV>Steve H.<BR>
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<DIV>On Feb 17, 2014, at 1:48 PM, "Mike Ash" <<A
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good suggestions. However, I would like to suggest that it may be a
ground problem. I do not know which one, but I would suggest that all
ground connections be checked (with a meter) for a solid connection to the
bare chassis, and that they are not insulated from the chassis by paint.
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">In
my experience with a new harness, it may not exactly match the diagram because
they may have taken a wire by a different path to achieve the same
result. The additional wire on you fuse block may be for the wiper
motor, the connections for which are shown incorrectly on the
diagram.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></DIV>
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class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Monday, February 17, 2014 12:30
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Magnette Group - North America<BR><B>Subject:</B><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Re: [Zmagnette] Wiring
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I sounds like there are two separate issues.<BR> On your ZB,
the Dome light should have a brown wire with a green tracer to power it and a
brown wire with black tracer to the door switches to ground it. This
will be energized all the time not just when the key is turned on, so I would
recommend checking out your connections to the dome
light.<BR> The turn signal issue is most likely incorrect
wiring at the direction indicator relay unit. Here is a diagram of just
the unit that may help you. On my own car, the cover was on the unit
incorrectly so when I thought I was attaching a wire to terminal 1 it was
actually terminal 8. If you look at the factory shop manual diagram, the
Direction Indicator Relay Unit, it shows the coils and relay points - with the
diagram I enclosed, you should be able to determine if your relay unit has had
the cover installed wrong or not.<SPAN
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2/17/2014 10:44 AM, Richard Greenberg wrote:<o:p></o:p></DIV></DIV>
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start by finding which wire supplies the dome light, and track it back to
the power source.<o:p></o:p></DIV>
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Rick Greenberg<o:p></o:p></DIV>
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Feb 17, 2014, at 9:06 AM, Rodger Shaver wrote:<o:p></o:p></DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif">I have been frustrated with a glitch
with my re-wiring job. This is a 59 ZB with a new British Wiring
harness. Regulator is the original, as are horn and signal light relays. New
flasher unit form Moss. Re-wired stator tube. Most electrical
functions seem correct, e.g. the heater fan motor, the ignition,
headlights. However, when I turn on the key all four signal lights
flash, along with the dome light. I have checked connections to dash panel
and relays and can't find a problem. I have had trouble confirming green
wire continuity from fuse box to all connections. Finally, I have four green
wires at the fuse box, not the three illustrated on the ZA diagram I have in
my WSM. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif">I need advice on how to troubleshoot
this problem, everything I check seems ok or doesn't make any sense. Rodger
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Message-----<BR>From: Steve Kirby <<A
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href="mailto:skirby210@cox.net">skirby210@cox.net</A>><BR>To: List for
the Z Magnette Group - North America <<A
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href="mailto:zmagnette@autox.team.net">zmagnette@autox.team.net</A>><BR>Sent:
Sun, Feb 16, 2014 8:40 pm<BR>Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Z Magnette Wiring
Diagram<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif">Thanks John, this is
huge undertaking, and I know we are all very appreciative of your
efforts!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A title=zmagnette@autox.team.net
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class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Sunday, February 16, 2014 1:51
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class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>[Zmagnette] Z Magnette Wiring
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif">No, I haven't
fallen off the face of the earth. Family and Employer<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>have conspired to keep me
from spending as much time on the wiring<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>diagram as I had hoped.
Also, building a set of icons to use for the<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>various components has taken
more time than I thought. The news is that<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>I've completed building a
single wiring diagram that has all of the<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>options for the ZA, ZB, ZB
Varitone both RHD and LHD. It is being<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>checked for accuracy and
completeness so it should be ready to send out<SPAN
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