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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Hello everyone,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I had this exact failure (worn spindle bush) on my
MGA Mk II --it got suddenly worse while on a weekend trip with my wife!
The wobble must have become great enough to have the rotor make intimate contact
with the cap posts. </FONT><FONT size=2 face=Arial>We were up near Lake
Placid and ended up bringing the MGA home on a U-haul trailer.
Ooops.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Jeff at Advanced Distributor did a great job
rebuilding and re-bushing my original distributor and I have been very
pleased with it. Jeff asked for cam and carb set up info and tweaked
the advance curve. He indicates he sources quality points and rotors to
minimize the failures associated with these parts. My car has continued to
run great since. I am sure the Pertronix is another good,
viable answer as well.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Best regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2
face=Arial>Dan </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=bachldrs@comcast.net href="mailto:bachldrs@comcast.net">Allen
Bachelder</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=zmagnette@autox.team.net
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America</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 06, 2014 5:51
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Zmagnette] Timing</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>I should have added that the worn spindle bush will cause the crappy
running (random missing, backfiring, etc) with points - but with Pertronix it
would probably run fine. Often that's the way worn bushings were "fixed".
Actually nothing is fixed that way - the spindle still wobbles but Pertronix
just doesn't care. I suppose if the bush wears badly enough, the rotor might
collide with some part of the cap. Not good!</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Cheers. </DIV>
<DIV>Allen</DIV>
<DIV><BR>Sent from my iPhone
<DIV>Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs</DIV>
<DIV>Allen Bachelder, prop. </DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR>On Feb 6, 2014, at 5:37 PM, Allen Bachelder <<A
href="mailto:bachldrs@comcast.net">bachldrs@comcast.net</A>>
wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>I too vote heavily in favor of Schlemmerizing. I'm using Pertronics
also. But if your timing is wondering it could be a sign of a loose timing
chanson. Check your dizzy for sticking vacuum &/or centrifugal
advances first (easier fix!). </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Worn/wobbling dizzy spindle bush will cause it to run crappy all the
time. Resetting the timing wouldn't help. </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>FWIW. </DIV>
<DIV>Allen</DIV>
<DIV><BR>Sent from my iPhone
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<DIV>Allen Bachelder, prop. </DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR>On Feb 6, 2014, at 2:36 PM, Rodger Shaver <<A
href="mailto:gopherdad@aol.com">gopherdad@aol.com</A>>
wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"
face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">I have Schlemmerized distributors (<A
href="http://advanceddistributors.com">advanceddistributors.com</A>) with
Pertronix in five MGs. No problems so far. I do carry points in case of
catastrophic failure on the road. Rodger</FONT></DIV>
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Message-----<BR>From: Google Apps Email <<A
href="mailto:steve@betterwitnesses.com">steve@betterwitnesses.com</A>><BR>To:
List for the Z Magnette Group - North America <<A
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Thu, Feb 6, 2014 12:32 pm<BR>Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Timing<BR><BR>
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<DIV>Schlemmerized dizzies are way better than Pertronix any day...</DIV>
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<DIV>Points you can fix on the road, Pertronix you can't.<BR><BR>Steve
H</DIV>
<DIV><BR>On Feb 6, 2014, at 11:28 AM, John Perkins <<A
href="mailto:zamagnette@charter.net">zamagnette@charter.net</A>>
wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV class=moz-cite-prefix>Ken:<BR> I got my ZA
because the guy I bought it from failed to diagnose a worn out
distributor. The original distributor had a cam that would only
open the points on a couple of the lobes, the shaft was wobbly in the
housing, the mechanical advance was rusty and would not operate
smoothly, finally the vacuum advance diaphragm was leaking. Your
issues might be just a distributor that needs to be rebuilt. Send
it to Jeff Schlemmer and let him Schlemmerize it for you. He's
done two for me with excellent results.<BR> John
Perkins<BR><BR>On 2/6/2014 12:59 PM, Ken Beisser wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<DIV>Thanks all, I appreciate all the advice. <BR>I drive the
car about 10 miles a day so that's less than 1000 miles in 4
months.<BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV>I'll look at the distributor parts again.<BR>The parts ie
cap/points/plugs/condenser/wiring are pretty new but there's obviously
something wrong.<BR></DIV>
<DIV>The distributor is original on a rebuilt engine.<BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>The electronic distributor is appealing, but it sounds like it
may not be my problem right now.<BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Ken B<BR></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 7:01 AM, Steven Trovato
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<DIV>You can argue the merits of points vs electronic ignition all
you want. Fact is, what Wombat said is correct. The way
most of us use our cars, it is not normal to require timing
adjustment every 4 months. The rule I remember from when all
cars had points and carburetors, was to do a full tune up every 10K
miles, and a "minor" tune up every 5K miles. The full tune up
was plugs, points, condenser, adjust timing, dwell and carb
mixture. Maybe replace the rotor and cap. The minor tune
up was to basically do the same stuff, but without replacing any
parts. You would just clean and readjust what was there,
unless something looked really terrible. This was not an MG
thing, these were just the rules I learned for typical American cars
of the day. In my experience, timing did not change a lot. As
Wombat said, wear at the points may require adjustment over
time. Timing on my Magnette stays pretty stable. This is
with 1500 engine and original points setup. If the distributor
is tightened so that you can't turn the body with your hand, then
that's not the problem. Overtightening just causes more
problems. I would take a look at the points. If they are
secure, I would look at their condition. Poor quality parts
might wear faster. Also, a bad condenser can cause the points
to wear faster. <BR><BR>-Steve T.
<DIV class=im><BR><BR><BR>At 08:52 AM 2/6/2014, charles durning
wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">X2 on getting rid of the points.
<BR><BR>I know, I know the purists will poo poo the change to
electronic ignition. I say let them keep their
points.<BR><BR> <BR>Charlie Durning<BR> <BR><FONT
size=4>If you are using Google or Gmail, Big Brother is
watching.<BR></FONT> <BR><BR><BR>On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 5:01
AM, Wayne & Isabel Hardy <<A
href="mailto:gwhardy@suddenlink.net">gwhardy@suddenlink.net</A>
> wrote:<BR>
<DL>
<DD>No t normal!! Should stay as set for years literally, if
tightened up properly at the pinch neck bolt.<BR>
<DD>Slight wear at the points may require a very small
adjustment over time, but only if driven enough to cause the
points to erode... A lot of driving usually.<BR>
<DD>Wombat
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