<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">My wife's long hair absorbs most of the burnt oil, gas, old exhaust, etc., odors from the car on each outing, so it is better than charcoal. I do like the idea of trays of charcoal, perhaps on the shelf under the dash, where it could pick up the fumes wafting through pores in the firewall. I'm serious, it sounds worth trying.<div><br></div><div>Also, last year I did a big interior scrubbing, with a Febreeze chaser. It helped a lot.</div><div><br></div><div>--Rick<br><div><br><div><div>On Jan 28, 2014, at 11:21 AM, John Perkins wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
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It would probably work better if you used the activated
charcoal that is used for water filtration in aquariums in shallow
open pans. Although, I've often used a bucket with a gallon of
water and a couple of cups of vinegar set in a car or a room in
the house to absorb odors very effectively - and cheap.<br>
Perkins<br>
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<div>So, what's the next step? I've put the charcoal in the car .
. . the "easy to light" kind. Who is bringing the dogs and
buns?</div>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true" title="zmagnette@autox.team.net" href="mailto:zmagnette@autox.team.net">List for the Z
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 28,
2014 7:51 AM</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Zmagnette]
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I suspect this is why we have the charcoal filters in our late
MGBs. The charcoal absorbs airborne combustibles (gasoline/oil
vapors and perhaps also the products of incomplete combustion
such as old cigarette smoke. I would suspect the more surface
area of the charcoal is exposed to the air, the more effective
it would be, so I wouldn't just put an open bag in the car, I'd
put the bag in a good sturdy plastic bag and go at it with a BFH
- pulverizing it as much as possible, spread it out on large
trays and put it the trays in the car.
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<div>On Jan 27, 2014, at 11:22 AM, charles durning wrote:</div>
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<blockquote type="cite">Charcoal works pretty good. My car
had the smell of rotten gasoline and the aroma from the
desert sands. It took awhile but it worked for the
passender part of the car. The trunk is another issue all
together. For a convertable I've found just letting it
sit out in the sun with the top down will do wonders And
there is always Febreeze.<br clear="all">
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<div>Charlie Durning</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 9:59 AM,
Steve Kirby <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:skirby210@cox.net" target="_blank">skirby210@cox.net</a>></span>
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<div>thanks, I'll do that while its sitting around.
I tried another ol' school idea like that, when we
sold my Dad's (heavy smoker) car. Cut a bunch of
apples in half and spread them around. To me, it
didn't work, but the charcoal makes more sense . .
. charcoal filtered, eh? Besides, if the car
should then catch on fire while I'm working on it,
I'll be better served to have a BBQ!</div>
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C.</a> </div>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Monday,
January 27, 2014 1:32 AM</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re:
[Zmagnette] Preservation</div>
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Steve<br>
Get a bag of charcoal, open and put it in the car
now. It should absorb the smoke smell over time. <br>
In some ways we are lucky our cars are not highly
sought after. It makes it much easier to build and
use them the way we want to. If uou can't enjoy
your car, what is the point?<br>
-- <br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">Steve Kirby <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:skirby210@cox.net" target="_blank">skirby210@cox.net</a>>
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<div>I'm so torn with this same question.
I've bored most of you with the story of the
orig owner, early ZA I have: "Millicent
Rose".</div>
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<div>Gosh, what I'd love to do is save the
back seat and back door panels, cuz they are
so darn near perfectly original, and I know
the leather could be preserved with all that
wonderful stuff. Even the front door panels
are very, very preservable. The interior is
that green color. It's "sooooooooooo" 50's
English Magnette, and a big part of me loves
it, simply cuz it is so original. The car
is black, and again, I love the originality,
but frankly, a black car and the green
interior . . . . ahhhhh, truthfully, (to
quote Wray Lemke) " . . . not my cuppa tea"
. . . not in blazing hot weather like we
have around here. Then, there's the front
seats, which are totally shredded and beyond
anyone's preservation abilities. The
material is simply gone, and the insides are
now outsides. So, I suppose I could replace
the front seats in matching old leather,
dyed to match . . . .but alas, then it's not
original anymore . . . is it?</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Likewise, the carpets are history . . .
they have to be replaced. Again, then it's
not original anymore. "It's only original
once", I've heard. Then, there's the
headliner. Not a rip or tear or stain in
it. BUT . . . dear Mrs. Millicent Rose
Thompson must have smoked about 85 million
cases of cigarettes inside the poor thing,
and I literally can not stand to even
briefly sit inside of it. So, that
headliner absolutely has to go . . . and who
knows what else to get rid of the wreak of
cigarette smoke . . . I guess you gathered
I'm a non-smoker :))) Again, it's no longer
original, and that headliner, together with
the seats and carpet and "NON negotiable".</div>
<div> </div>
<div>The overall black paint is pretty much in
good shape . . . except for a few spots,
which I suppose I could just ignore, along
with dings in the front wings . . . suppose
I could repair and spot paint just those?</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Then, the engine . . . which was out of
the car when I bought it, and obviously
wasn't removed just for exercise. The
engine bay shows some "bodging". Now we
have to back up a bit too. Prior to getting
"Millicent Rose", I'd already bought 2 gals
(and the hardener and the reducer) of a sort
of Midnight Blue type color paint, to paint
the ZB I was originally going to restore,
along with new, from Lou, macrame front door
pulls, in a biscuit color . . . 'cuz that's
the color we wanted for the interior of that
"first" car. Oh, and the Rivergate kit to
go with the Nissan 5 speed is already
sitting here, along with Allen's 1800
adapter plate. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>So, should I "eat" all that, and keep
"Milicent" stock. My unbelievable, super
supportive wife even said "So, do the
original car with all the upgrades, and the
color we want (blue, biscuit interior), and
then preserve the other one!" Wow, some
bride eh? T'was I who actually said
something like "Not gonna happen". Takes me
about 5 years to do a car. I could be block
sanding in my casket at that rate.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>So thanks Steven for bringing this up.
I'm enjoying the responses so far. My mind
is made up, and I know there are others who
will vehemently disagree with my decision,
but in the end, ya know what? It's our
car! I'm not doing all this to please a few
folks at the next car show or GT or
whatever. We'll never make everyone happy,
but if my bride likes it, I will be pleased.</div>
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<div>#2SteveK</div>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b>
Sunday, January 26, 2014 6:07 PM</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b>
Re: [Zmagnette] Preservation</div>
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Phil,<br>
<br>
Yes, I do plan to do what pleases me. I am
not a slave to the <br>
opinions of others, but I am interested in
the thoughts of people I <br>
respect. I have no plans for a full
restoration at this time. I am <br>
going to keep driving my car and enjoying
it. I'm not really looking <br>
for votes on what I should do. I am
interested in hearing what <br>
people think of this trend in general. I am
also interested in <br>
learning more techniques and strategies for
owning and maintaining a <br>
car with a preservation attitude.<br>
<br>
-Steve T.<br>
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At 08:53 PM 1/26/2014, <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:mg1948@verizon.net" target="_blank">mg1948@verizon.net</a>
wrote:<br>
>The question I think you should ask
yourself is "What do I want and <br>
>what pleases me" or is it important what
others think of your car.<br>
><br>
>I've had 21 MGs & some I tried for
strict originality & it was <br>
>important I show well & others
opinions. I would not drive in the <br>
>rain or 100 miles to a meet.<br>
><br>
>Others, my Magnette, was not restored to
that level. It satisfied <br>
>my wife because of a/c, and I wanted a
reliable driver and not be <br>
>afraid of door dings, bugs, and was a
nice restoration but not a <br>
>trailer queen or 95+ restoration.<br>
><br>
>Just my opinion.<br>
><br>
>Phil<br>
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