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<DIV><FONT size=4>I’d stay out of the easy lite stuff...it comes with it’s own
Naptha fumes.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=skirby210@cox.net
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 28, 2014 12:11 PM</DIV>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> [Zmagnette] What next?</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>Allen, Charlie, Steve C and others:</DIV>
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<DIV>So, what's the next step? I've put the charcoal in the car . . . the
"easy to light" kind. Who is bringing the dogs and buns?</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 28, 2014 7:51
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Zmagnette]
Preservation</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>I suspect this is why we have the charcoal filters in our
late MGBs. The charcoal absorbs airborne combustibles (gasoline/oil vapors and
perhaps also the products of incomplete combustion such as old cigarette
smoke. I would suspect the more surface area of the charcoal is exposed
to the air, the more effective it would be, so I wouldn't just put an
open bag in the car, I'd put the bag in a good sturdy plastic bag and go at it
with a BFH - pulverizing it as much as possible, spread it out on large trays
and put it the trays in the car.
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<DIV>FWIW...</DIV>
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<DIV>On Jan 27, 2014, at 11:22 AM, charles durning wrote:</DIV><BR
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Charcoal works pretty good. My car had the
smell of rotten gasoline and the aroma from the desert sands. It took
awhile but it worked for the passender part of the car. The trunk is
another issue all together. For a convertable I've found just letting
it sit out in the sun with the top down will do wonders And there is
always Febreeze.<BR clear=all>
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<DIV>Charlie Durning</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>If you are using Google or Gmail, Big Brother is
watching.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Steve Kirby <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:skirby210@cox.net"
target=_blank>skirby210@cox.net</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV>thanks, I'll do that while its sitting around. I tried another
ol' school idea like that, when we sold my Dad's (heavy smoker) car.
Cut a bunch of apples in half and spread them around. To me, it
didn't work, but the charcoal makes more sense . . . charcoal filtered,
eh? Besides, if the car should then catch on fire while I'm working
on it, I'll be better served to have a BBQ!</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial"><B>From:</B> <A
title=laverda@aol.com href="mailto:laverda@aol.com" target=_blank>Steve
C.</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=zmagnette@autox.team.net href="mailto:zmagnette@autox.team.net"
target=_blank>List for the Z Magnette Group - North America</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 27, 2014 1:32
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Zmagnette]
Preservation</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>Steve<BR>Get a bag of charcoal, open and put it in the
car now. It should absorb the smoke smell over time. <BR>In some ways we
are lucky our cars are not highly sought after. It makes it much easier
to build and use them the way we want to. If uou can't enjoy your car,
what is the point?<BR>-- <BR>Sent from my Android phone with <A
href="http://mail.com/" target=_blank>mail.com</A> Mail. Please excuse
my brevity.<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>Steve Kirby <<A
href="mailto:skirby210@cox.net" target=_blank>skirby210@cox.net</A>>
wrote:
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<DIV>I'm so torn with this same question. I've bored most of you
with the story of the orig owner, early ZA I have: "Millicent
Rose".</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Gosh, what I'd love to do is save the back seat and back door
panels, cuz they are so darn near perfectly original, and I know the
leather could be preserved with all that wonderful stuff. Even
the front door panels are very, very preservable. The interior
is that green color. It's "sooooooooooo" 50's English Magnette,
and a big part of me loves it, simply cuz it is so original. The
car is black, and again, I love the originality, but frankly, a black
car and the green interior . . . . ahhhhh, truthfully, (to quote Wray
Lemke) " . . . not my cuppa tea" . . . not in blazing hot weather like
we have around here. Then, there's the front seats, which are
totally shredded and beyond anyone's preservation abilities. The
material is simply gone, and the insides are now outsides. So, I
suppose I could replace the front seats in matching old leather, dyed
to match . . . .but alas, then it's not original anymore . . . is
it?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Likewise, the carpets are history . . . they have to be
replaced. Again, then it's not original anymore. "It's
only original once", I've heard. Then, there's the
headliner. Not a rip or tear or stain in it. BUT . . .
dear Mrs. Millicent Rose Thompson must have smoked about 85 million
cases of cigarettes inside the poor thing, and I literally can not
stand to even briefly sit inside of it. So, that headliner
absolutely has to go . . . and who knows what else to get rid of the
wreak of cigarette smoke . . . I guess you gathered I'm a non-smoker
:))) Again, it's no longer original, and that headliner,
together with the seats and carpet and "NON negotiable".</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The overall black paint is pretty much in good shape . . . except
for a few spots, which I suppose I could just ignore, along with dings
in the front wings . . . suppose I could repair and spot paint just
those?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Then, the engine . . . which was out of the car when I bought it,
and obviously wasn't removed just for exercise. The engine bay
shows some "bodging". Now we have to back up a bit too.
Prior to getting "Millicent Rose", I'd already bought 2 gals (and the
hardener and the reducer) of a sort of Midnight Blue type color
paint, to paint the ZB I was originally going to restore, along with
new, from Lou, macrame front door pulls, in a biscuit color . . . 'cuz
that's the color we wanted for the interior of that "first" car.
Oh, and the Rivergate kit to go with the Nissan 5 speed is already
sitting here, along with Allen's 1800 adapter plate. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>So, should I "eat" all that, and keep "Milicent" stock. My
unbelievable, super supportive wife even said "So, do the original car
with all the upgrades, and the color we want (blue, biscuit interior),
and then preserve the other one!" Wow, some bride eh?
T'was I who actually said something like "Not gonna happen".
Takes me about 5 years to do a car. I could be block sanding in
my casket at that rate.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>So thanks Steven for bringing this up. I'm enjoying the
responses so far. My mind is made up, and I know there are
others who will vehemently disagree with my decision, but in the end,
ya know what? It's our car! I'm not doing all this to
please a few folks at the next car show or GT or whatever. We'll
never make everyone happy, but if my bride likes it, I will be
pleased.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>#2SteveK</DIV>
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title=strovato@optonline.net href="mailto:strovato@optonline.net"
target=_blank>Steven Trovato</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=zmagnette@autox.team.net
href="mailto:zmagnette@autox.team.net" target=_blank>List for the Z
Magnette Group - North America</A> ; <A
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Magnette Group - North America</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 26, 2014
6:07 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Zmagnette]
Preservation</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>Phil,<BR><BR>Yes, I do plan to do what pleases
me. I am not a slave to the <BR>opinions of others, but I am
interested in the thoughts of people I <BR>respect. I have no
plans for a full restoration at this time. I am <BR>going to
keep driving my car and enjoying it. I'm not really looking
<BR>for votes on what I should do. I am interested in hearing
what <BR>people think of this trend in general. I am also
interested in <BR>learning more techniques and strategies for owning
and maintaining a <BR>car with a preservation
attitude.<BR><BR>-Steve T.<BR><BR>At 08:53 PM 1/26/2014, <A
href="mailto:mg1948@verizon.net"
target=_blank>mg1948@verizon.net</A> wrote:<BR>>The question I
think you should ask yourself is "What do I want and <BR>>what
pleases me" or is it important what others think of your
car.<BR>><BR>>I've had 21 MGs & some I tried for strict
originality & it was <BR>>important I show well & others
opinions. I would not drive in the <BR>>rain or 100 miles
to a meet.<BR>><BR>>Others, my Magnette, was not restored to
that level. It satisfied <BR>>my wife because of a/c, and I
wanted a reliable driver and not be <BR>>afraid of door dings,
bugs, and was a nice restoration but not a <BR>>trailer queen or
95+ restoration.<BR>><BR>>Just my
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