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<DIV>you'll never go wrong w/PPG. ValSpar seems to be a new player, or
"bigger" player recently in the car field. They are buying up a lot of
others.</DIV>
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<A title=scottewoolman@hotmail.com
href="mailto:scottewoolman@hotmail.com">Scott Woolman</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=zmagnette@autox.team.net
href="mailto:zmagnette@autox.team.net">List for the Z Magnette Group - North
America</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, December 29, 2013 11:29
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Zmagnette] Paint</DIV>
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<DIV>I think I can Decipher the sequence. I do not have any Valspar dealers in
the area I checked Friday. So I'm going with the PPG even though it's a little
more expensive. My basecoat is acrylic urethane primer K 36. Does that sound
right to you<BR><BR>Sent from my iPhone</DIV>
<DIV><BR>On Dec 29, 2013, at 11:01 AM, "Steve Kirby" <<A
href="mailto:skirby210@cox.net">skirby210@cox.net</A>> wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>well gosh, I think so, BUT . . . . I hope I haven't made any other
bonehead mistakes like the one John caught. The thing w/painting is,
there are many products and many choices. Starting with basic
decisions like "single stage" or "clear coat". Marinara or
Alfredo? Then, I realize I live in Calif. where things that others or
you might have are not allowed here. For instance, if you clear coat,
then you elimiante the color sanding and buff/polish stage. Spaghetti
or Linguini? I already stated my preference when doing a vintage
car: single stage, color sanded and buffed. Others will
vehemently disagree, and that's fine.</DIV>
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<DIV>I do distinctly your fantastic car at Delavan . . . beating out like
what? +/- 32 cars??? You, or someone!, obviously knows what the
heck they are doing. Your car is drop dead gorgeous, and a model to
which the rest of us can aspire.</DIV>
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<DIV>#2SteveK</DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=jpark@bmts.com href="mailto:jpark@bmts.com">John Park</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=zmagnette@autox.team.net
href="mailto:zmagnette@autox.team.net">'List for the Z Magnette Group -
North America'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, December 29, 2013 10:44
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Zmagnette] Paint</DIV>
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Steve, Does this latest missive mean more adjustments to your original
discourse on painting? Being an amateur it would be nice to have the
complete and accurate version so I’m/we’re not open to
mis-interpretation. I really like when you “experienced” guys give a
full detailed account of how to do things. I’m trying to keep some
semblance of fix it history like Wray Lemke did for us back at GT35.
Regards, John<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P>
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href="mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net">zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net</A>
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<B>On Behalf Of </B>Steve Kirby<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, December 28,
2013 11:23 PM<BR><B>To:</B> List for the Z Magnette Group - North
America<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Zmagnette]
Paint<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>ooooops, John is absolutely right. I should
have looked at my "cans" of junk before writing such a treatise. I
now realize how I made that mistake. I use to use PPG DP40 epoxy
sealer, and an etching stuff prior to that (a yellow/greenie
looking product). Somewhere along there, the guy I work with
said you really didn't need to use the etching stuff anymore, as as the
DP40 would be fine without it.<O:P></O:P></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Then, to make matters worse "in my mind", I started
using SEM and UPol "self etching primer" in spray cans, again on the
advice of the same guy, when I would occassionaly sand through, or
whatever, the epoxy sealer. My "guy" said that would be fine, and
totally compatible with the DP40 type products (I now use a similar
type product,made by TCP (which I believe is made by ValSpar, rather than
the $$$$ PPG DP40, or even the PPG Omni line). Thus, somehow in the
back recesses of the remnants of my withering brain, the two products
somewhat merged and became "self-etching epoxy sealer". John is 100%
correct, ain't no such animal. <O:P></O:P></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>What I will say, is that on the last 3 cars (well, 2
cars, one large truck) I have skipped the etching stage completely, and
gone completely with the epoxy sealer, as the first step. Have not
had one problem . . . again, on the advice of a respected auto body
supplier person. Guess that is partially how I derived the "new (so
new, it hasn't been invented yet!) product: self-etching epoxy
sealer! Throw in the self-etching spray cans of primer, which was
recommended to use on whatever bare metal areas might occur, and that
completed my erroneous mental route.<O:P></O:P></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>The next time I attempt such a discourse, I think I
best mosey up to my shop, and check the cans of stuff I'm talking
about. <O:P></O:P></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
title=mgmagnette@aol.com href="mailto:mgmagnette@aol.com">John
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December 28, 2013 6:18 AM<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>I've never heard of " self-etching, epoxy - catalytic
sealer ". Always thought it was one or the other... Either an etch
primer, or a epoxy, not both... What product is " self-etching,
epoxy - catalytic sealer "? Google gives me
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