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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>What? ! And spoil all the fun??</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=skirby210@cox.net href="mailto:skirby210@cox.net">Steve Kirby</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, December 28, 2013 8:23
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Zmagnette] Paint</DIV>
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<DIV>ooooops, John is absolutely right. I should have looked at my
"cans" of junk before writing such a treatise. I now realize how I made
that mistake. I use to use PPG DP40 epoxy sealer, and an etching stuff
prior to that (a yellow/greenie looking product). Somewhere along
there, the guy I work with said you really didn't need to use the etching
stuff anymore, as as the DP40 would be fine without it.</DIV>
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<DIV>Then, to make matters worse "in my mind", I started using SEM and UPol
"self etching primer" in spray cans, again on the advice of the same guy, when
I would occassionaly sand through, or whatever, the epoxy sealer. My
"guy" said that would be fine, and totally compatible with the DP40 type
products (I now use a similar type product,made by TCP (which I believe is
made by ValSpar, rather than the $$$$ PPG DP40, or even the PPG Omni
line). Thus, somehow in the back recesses of the remnants of my
withering brain, the two products somewhat merged and became "self-etching
epoxy sealer". John is 100% correct, ain't no such animal. </DIV>
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<DIV>What I will say, is that on the last 3 cars (well, 2 cars, one large
truck) I have skipped the etching stage completely, and gone completely with
the epoxy sealer, as the first step. Have not had one problem . . .
again, on the advice of a respected auto body supplier person. Guess
that is partially how I derived the "new (so new, it hasn't been invented
yet!) product: self-etching epoxy sealer! Throw in the
self-etching spray cans of primer, which was recommended to use on whatever
bare metal areas might occur, and that completed my erroneous mental
route.</DIV>
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<DIV>The next time I attempt such a discourse, I think I best mosey up to my
shop, and check the cans of stuff I'm talking about. </DIV>
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<DIV>#2SteveK</DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=mgmagnette@aol.com href="mailto:mgmagnette@aol.com">John Elwood</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, December 28, 2013 6:18
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Zmagnette] Paint</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>I've never heard of " self-etching, epoxy - catalytic sealer
". Always thought it was one or the other... Either an etch primer, or
a epoxy, not both... What product is " self-etching, epoxy - catalytic
sealer "? Google gives me
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