<html><head><base href="x-msg://1184/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Yes, Steve is right...<div><br></div><div> We heard two incredibly-detailed lectures: one on the heater functions and controls, and one on the inner workings of the Manumatic, which was considerably easier to understand. (Not to say that it WAS understood!) There was one freak moment during my restoration when a flash of intellectual light struck me and lo, for that single moment, I fully understood the workings of the cowl-vent lever. This flash of brilliance was so full it struck me to the floor, totally exhausted. To retain that vast battery of comprehension, while simultaneously grasping the melange of cables and levers obtusely co-mingled so as to effect all possible permutations and combinations of cold or warm, fresh or recirculated, air, blown or drawn, through floor vents, or defroster vents, without disturbing the temperature or humidity inside the car whatsoever is simply beyond the human realm. </div><div><br></div><div>There is little doubt in my mind that three extra-terrestials from a much more advanced planet landed in Roswell New Mexico in the early '50s, and teleported their spirits to Abingdon to haunt Gerald Palmer on three successive nights, leaving him with a heater/defroster design of which he understood nothing but felt inexplicably compelled to use in the new Magnette. In the meantime, the three extra-terrestial spirits returned to their home-planet where they were properly rebuked for their poor navigational skills - having landed in Roswell instead of Stonehenge where they had previously landed and built this circular stone marker to guide them back*. </div><div><br></div><div>*Although other archeologists have alternatively explained the artifact at Stonehenge as perhaps a petrified prehistoric, "monumentally" inefficient squirrel-cage blower - modeling the design of that unit replicated in the Z Magnette.</div><div><br></div><div>What else could possibly explain this design? No ordinary human being could possibly have designed this. After all, John Twist himself has exclaimed that he never understood it. (Really!!) We have here a design clearly emanating from beyond the human realm... Of course anybody, regardless of intellectual advancement, can make mistakes - whadaya expect from three guys who couldn't distinguish Roswell from Stonehenge? Why do you think I replaced my entire Magnette heater with a modern one? </div><div><br></div><div>Allen <br><div>
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<br><div><div>On Dec 18, 2013, at 6:59 PM, Steve Kirby wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" bgcolor="#ffffff" vlink="purple"><div>this will be of absolutely no help whatsoever, but when Fearless Leader Allen and I were in the UK celebrating the Magnette's 60th, we were treated to an explanation by someone, who obviously and actually did understand the thing (meaning the entire air/heater/circulation/defroster system). I can tell you that (NOT speaking for Allen!!!), the explanation was at least an intense 20 minutes long, and had to do with things like "when this is open, then air is circulating from here to there, which necessitates the #$%^ valve being open, while simulatanousely the excess air is being directed to the defroster, and exits out the @#$%^&. This went on for, honest to god, 20 minutes. I was lost after the 2nd or 3rd @#$%^&*. I've done a couple of B's, and there seems to be no relationship there whatsoever. I actually understand what happens, I think, in a B.</div><div> </div><div>But thanks Kelvin . . . I get this part!</div><div> </div><div>#2SteveK</div><blockquote style="border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 0px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px; "><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; ">----- Original Message -----</div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: rgb(228, 228, 228); background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="doddk@mossmotors.com" href="mailto:doddk@mossmotors.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">Kelvin Dodd</a></div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="zmagnette@autox.team.net" href="mailto:zmagnette@autox.team.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">'List for the Z Magnette Group - North America'</a></div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, December 18, 2013 1:34 PM</div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Zmagnette] Heater control connections</div><div><br></div><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt; ">Lets see if this works.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; "><b><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Rodger Shaver<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, December 18, 2013 10:35 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:zmagnette@autox.team.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">zmagnette@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[Zmagnette] Heater control connections<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; "><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; ">I am almost ready to connect the heater controls from the dash to the valve. The slide control for temperature does two things, it opens the valve to allow hot water to flow and it controls an inner flap. How should the valve and the inner flap be set when I reinstall the cable? Maybe it will be obvious when I get into the car but not much is obvious to me when I am scrunched up. I didn't do this step on my prior Magnette re-do because I don't have a proper valve for it. <o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><hr><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div>_______________________________________________<br>Zmagnette mailing list<br><br>Donate:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Archive:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.team.net/archive" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br>Forums:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.team.net/forums" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.team.net/forums</a><br>Unsubscribe/Manage:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/zmagnette/skirby210@cox.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/zmagnette/skirby210@cox.net</a><br><br></blockquote>_______________________________________________<br>Zmagnette mailing list<br><br>Donate:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Archive:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.team.net/archive" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br>Forums:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.team.net/forums" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.team.net/forums</a><br>Unsubscribe/Manage:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/zmagnette/bachldrs@comcast.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/zmagnette/bachldrs@comcast.net</a><br><br></div></span></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>