<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Right... Of mixing metaphors I am guilty... Both are good guys and great assets to our hobby... </div><div><br>Steve H</div><div><br>On Dec 16, 2013, at 7:42 PM, "John Park" <<a href="mailto:jpark@bmts.com">jpark@bmts.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"><base href="x-msg://351/"><style><!--
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">No, Liverpool Motorworks is Jerry Labant. Yes he’s a very interesting fellow who sometimes has very good deals on strange and rare items. More than occasionally they are fairly pricey. Jerry lives in Pennsylvania while Rob lives in Michigan. He manufactures his tools which you can buy individually or as a complete set for a particular MG model. He does have some used stuff but he is more casual about how he sells things and you don’t usually get the big story with each piece. I’ve purchased several tools from him and they seem to be well made and work when I’ve asked them to. As Allen likes to say, I don’t have any connection to this person or any financial interest. Here is his web site page off of Google searches:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>British Tool Company<br>Robb Nortier<br>709 Marietta NE<br>Grand Rapids, MI 49505<br>(616) 363-6666<br><a href="mailto:britool51@hotmail.com">britool51@hotmail.com</a><br><a href="http://www.britishtool.com/">http://www.britishtool.com/</a><o:p></o:p></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Whitworth, BSF, BSP, BSC, BSW tools. Also makes special factory tools originally made by Churchill in England.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">WANTED!!!!! British Tool is looking for any quantity of old, used and obsolete tools for British Sports cars. If you happen to have any Churchill tools laying around, I'm interested. Also, many customers would like to have those tool kit tools you have as duplicate or don't know exactly what they belong to so let me know! DESIGN AND ENGINEERING SERVICES:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">BRITISH TOOL has complete design and production facilities available, and will be happy to undertake custom design of various projects and bring them to completion. Currently on staff is Liliana Teodorescu, an engineer skilled in mechanical, electrical, structural and civil engineering. She has a Masters degree in Engineering and has taught at the University of Brasov in Rumania, and L'Ecole Technique De Blida in Algeria. She was awarded the prestigious Definitive Professor Degree in Rumania in 1976.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">MACHINE SHOP SERVICES AVAILABLE:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">We have a new mill, engine lathe, and several pieces of other production equipment ready and waiting for small jobs. Our journeyman machinist is a virtual artist when it comes to metal work, so if you have an idea, we can make it.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net">zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net</a> [<a href="mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net">mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Steve Hanegan<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 16, 2013 6:51 PM<br><b>To:</b> List for the Z Magnette Group - North America<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Zmagnette] Machinist projects<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Rob Nortier of Liverpool Motor Works! Very interesting chap with some really interesting and unique bits of unobtanium... I got my tyre pump rebuilt and the hose replaced by Rob and when he returned them he also sent some Purolator oil filter dash hanger cards just for grins....<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I also bought some vintage tyre repair kits and tools from him - very nice stuff at fair prices<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.liverpoolmotorworks.com/Home_Page.html">http://www.liverpoolmotorworks.com/Home_Page.html</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Steve H<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Dec 16, 2013, at 3:39 PM, John Park <<a href="mailto:jpark@bmts.com">jpark@bmts.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">There’s a fellow in Michigan who goes to John Twist’s summer parties who sells the illusive differential oil fill plug wrench. Nortier, maybe Rob? MaybeJjohn could enlighten us on that. I bought one from him about 10 years ago. Works like a charm.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><a href="mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net"><span style="color:purple">zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net</span></a><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>[mailto:zmagnette-<a href="mailto:bounces@autox.team.net"><span style="color:purple">bounces@autox.team.net</span></a>]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Allen Bachelder<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, December 16, 2013 5:23 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>List for the Z Magnette Group - North America<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Zmagnette] Machinist projects</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks Lann! We have a community college in town - I'll start with them. And thanks also for the Sherline link.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Holiday Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Allen<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-style-span"><b><i><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">****************************************************************</span></i></b></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Allen & Florrie Bachelder =iii=<<br>Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">'57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">North Street, MI 48049, USA</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-style-span"><b><i><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><a href="http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs"><span style="color:purple">http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs</span></a></span></i></b></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">****************************************************************</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Dec 16, 2013, at 2:31 PM,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:LannM@aol.com"><span style="color:purple">LannM@aol.com</span></a><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div id="role_body"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Alan, et al,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Here in NE Oklahoma the Technology Center offers one or two night a week classes in auto body, painting, upholstery, all kinds of welding, CAD, NC programming and machining. The cost is reasonable and geezers (60+) get a 20% discount. There may be something similar in your area.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">And, for a good introduction to machining check<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.sherline.com/"><span style="color:purple">www.sherline.com</span></a>. Their stuff is small, but they are real tools. Everything you can learn on a Sherline lathe or mill transfers to full size machines.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Lann</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">In a message dated 12/15/2013 7:45:51 P.M. Central Standard Time,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:bachldrs@comcast.net"><span style="color:purple">bachldrs@comcast.net</span></a><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>writes:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">#2 SteveK: I agree - what a terrific idea. And boy - what I'd give for a couple old geezer's machining classes. Anybody know where I can take one or two or whatever it takes?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Steve T: I have another idea for a project - a serpentine crankshaft pulley for a five-main MGB engine, along with a matching pulley for the water pump, would be on the top of my wishlist. Preferably, make the crankshaft pulley in the form of a harmonic balancer, but beggars cannot be choosers...</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Steve K, you will need that octagonal socket when you get to working on your Magnette rear axle. Unlike you, I totally forgot I already had one of these and was looking for a hex wrench to do the trick. ' Bet I spent over a week looking for one before I realized even the right size wouldn't fit, AND that I already HAD ONE!! </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">If I get any more ideas, I'll share them!</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Allen</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-style-span"><b><i><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">****************************************************************</span></i></b></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Allen & Florrie Bachelder =iii=<<br>Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">'57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">North Street, MI 48049, USA</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-style-span"><b><i><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><a href="http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs" title="http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs"><span style="color:purple">http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs</span></a></span></i></b></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">****************************************************************</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">On Dec 15, 2013, at 3:32 PM, Steve Kirby wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><br><br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Wow, that's great in the first place, that he is pursuing this wonderful trade. Congratulations to you, and to your son.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Such an awesome offer. I purchased, at great expense, that socket you are talking about. Never used it. If he could use it for guidance, I'd be glad to loan it to him. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">As to other ideas, I have none to offer at the moment, but as soon as your son gets booked up, I know I'll think of something.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Thanks for thinking up a great offer, though!</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">#2Steve K</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">----- Original Message -----</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#E4E4E4"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a href="mailto:strovato@optonline.net" title="mailto:strovato@optonline.net"><span style="color:purple">Steven Trovato</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">To:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a href="mailto:zmagnette@autox.team.net" title="mailto:zmagnette@autox.team.net"><span style="color:purple">List for the Z Magnette Group - North America</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Sent:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Saturday, December 14, 2013 6:55 PM</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Subject:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">[Zmagnette] Machinist projects</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">My son is in college in a two year program to become a machinist. It<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>seems that he needs some proposals for projects he can do there. As<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>the one paying the tuition, I get to suggest something that would be<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>of use to me and my MGs. One thought I had was to make a nice socket<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>for the octagon shaped rear axle nut. Does anyone else have any<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>ideas for any cool stuff I could suggest? There's no guarantee that<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>he will do it, as the project would have to fit in with the goals of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>the course work. So, what would you guys do if you had a machinist<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>at your disposal? 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