<div dir="ltr">11x17 would be good for me. Color is awesome</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr"><div> </div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Steve Kirby <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:skirby210@cox.net" target="_blank">skirby210@cox.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>I won't pay $2.00. That is ridiculous! I would gladly pay $5.00
however, as the joy of having it in color is PRICELESS! My choice would be
11 x 17 or 12 x 18 . . . in that range. Bigger OK, smaller no. I've
done the wiring on a couple of cars, and can't 'splain strongly enuf how
very helpful a good, readable, color-coded schematic is. Maybe its
cuz I'm not the electronic genius that some of you are, but a good, readable
schematic has gotten me through a couple of times, with no fires or
shorts.</div>
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<div style="background:rgb(228,228,228);font:10pt/normal arial;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal"><b>From:</b>
<a title="wrench@attglobal.net" href="mailto:wrench@attglobal.net" target="_blank">John
Perkins</a> </div>
<div style="font:10pt/normal arial;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal"><b>To:</b> <a title="zmagnette@autox.team.net" href="mailto:zmagnette@autox.team.net" target="_blank">List for the Z Magnette Group - North
America</a> </div>
<div style="font:10pt/normal arial;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 06, 2013 1:24
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<div style="font:10pt/normal arial;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Zmagnette] Wiring diagrams
and windscreens</div>
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<div>Allen:<br> The longest time for
me to build the wiring diagram in Visio is the time to build the icons for the
various components to look as much like the original diagram as
possible. Would $2.00 a copy for PDFs be too much? That way people
who want to print it can take the PDF to their nearest Kinko's and those who
like to use a PC or tablet could use it electronically. Also, I will
need some input about what size most folks would want it to be for printing
and the corrections that need to made. I know about the wiper motor, and
I'll check about the clock when I get home tonight, are there any more
problems?<br> Perkins<br> <br>On 12/6/2013
1:30 PM, Allen Bachelder wrote:<br></div>
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<div>I think your idea sounds like a plan, but I also think you should be
paid for your time and effort. If you could hang a price tag on the
completed item, perhaps we could price it out and have folks receive the PDF
file once they're paid, or maybe there are a handful of us on the list who
just want to kick in enough that you would be comfortable distributing it to
all. What works for you?</div>
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<div>Thanks!</div>
<div>Allen<br>
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<div>On Dec 6, 2013, at 12:51 PM, John Perkins wrote:</div><br>
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<div>Rick and Allen:<br> As I'm
sitting in hotel rooms, I could reproduce the wiring diagram in Visio and
color the wires in as correct a color as Visio will allow. Then
output it as a PDF file that anyone could print on either 8.5 by 11 or 11
by 17 paper. We could even use this to fix the problem with the
wiper motor wiring that is in the factory shop
manual.<br> Perkins<br><br>On 12/6/2013 11:07 AM,
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<div>Regarding (1): I would be happy to scan the wiring diagrams
from the shop manual. My scanner is a cheap hp printer, but it
could produce a workable digital image. Then anyone could print
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<div>If you want an artistic version, suitable for framing, you might
want to use a better scanner though.</div>
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<div>Let me know if you want a digital scan.</div>
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<div>--Rick</div><br>
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a recent phone conversation with one of our own, two concerns arose
which I promised to address about a week ago. I apologize for
the delay, but my past week has been memorable for its interruptions.
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<div>Two questions:</div>
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<div>1.) Is there somebody in our noble band who either could
or would be interested in making up enlarged wiring diagrams for the
Magnette. I know there are at least four of them, and maybe some
choices would have to be made, but did somebody volunteer that they
could provide an 11 X 17 wiring diagram copy either laminated or
suitable for lamination? If you are not such a person but have
access to equipment that could produce same, for a PRICE of course,
I can guaranty you sales of two of these from the get-go. I
know we discussed this at some time but cannot recall how we left
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<div>2.) We also focused on a windscreen thread a year or two ago,
and somebody found that Pilkington (?name?) had a US distribution
center (somewhere in Ohio?) from which we might be able to expect a
supply of new windscreens. Is there a follow-up story here?
There are those of us who either need one or would buy one as a
spare should they become available. Once again, any new
information about this would certainly be welcome. I know the
nightmare Steve Hanegan went through to land a shipment of
windscreens and rear Varitone glasses here in the US of A. I
suspect a good many of those of us of the Varitone persuasion would
be cheered to find a stash of these bits available in North America,
but I wouldn't wish this task on Steve again for anything.
So... can anybody report anything new on this concern?</div>
<div><br></div></blockquote>Many thanks to anybody who can contribute
to this conversation!
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<div>Holiday Cheers,</div>
<div>Allen<br>
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