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<DIV>I really like the color coded idea, and agree with Honourable Leader:
Mr. P should get paid for his efforts. I'm willing to hold out for a color
coded PDF or whatever electronic creation comes up.</DIV>
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<DIV>Having spent the last 2 - 3 weeks trying to follow an enlarged version of a
B/W VW schematic, the thought of a color-coded schmatic makes me all a pitter
patter. Following them dern little black lines has led to a few "talking
to my Creator" moments!</DIV>
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<DIV>FWIW, if we had such a creation, the "end user" wouldn't even have to print
it at home. Most of these copy places will have you email it to them,
they'll directly print whatever size you want (with my eyes, I'm going for 12 x
18 FEET), and have it laminated for you, by the time you go pick it up.</DIV>
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<DIV>#2SteveK</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=bachldrs@comcast.net href="mailto:bachldrs@comcast.net">Allen
Bachelder</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=zmagnette@autox.team.net
href="mailto:zmagnette@autox.team.net">List for the Z Magnette Group - North
America</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, December 06, 2013 11:30
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Zmagnette] Wiring diagrams
and windscreens</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Perkins,
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<DIV>I think your idea sounds like a plan, but I also think you should be paid
for your time and effort. If you could hang a price tag on the completed
item, perhaps we could price it out and have folks receive the PDF file once
they're paid, or maybe there are a handful of us on the list who just want to
kick in enough that you would be comfortable distributing it to all.
What works for you?</DIV>
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<DIV>Thanks!</DIV>
<DIV>Allen<BR>
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<DIV>On Dec 6, 2013, at 12:51 PM, John Perkins wrote:</DIV><BR
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<DIV class=moz-cite-prefix>Rick and Allen:<BR> As I'm
sitting in hotel rooms, I could reproduce the wiring diagram in Visio and
color the wires in as correct a color as Visio will allow. Then output
it as a PDF file that anyone could print on either 8.5 by 11 or 11 by 17
paper. We could even use this to fix the problem with the wiper motor
wiring that is in the factory shop manual.<BR>
Perkins<BR><BR>On 12/6/2013 11:07 AM, Richard Greenberg wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<DIV>Regarding (1): I would be happy to scan the wiring diagrams
from the shop manual. My scanner is a cheap hp printer, but it could
produce a workable digital image. Then anyone could print and
laminate their own from the digital file. </DIV>
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<DIV>If you want an artistic version, suitable for framing, you might want
to use a better scanner though.</DIV>
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<DIV>Let me know if you want a digital scan.</DIV>
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<DIV>--Rick</DIV><BR>
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<DIV>On Dec 5, 2013, at 11:28 PM, Allen Bachelder wrote:</DIV><BR
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a recent phone conversation with one of our own, two concerns arose
which I promised to address about a week ago. I apologize for the
delay, but my past week has been memorable for its interruptions.
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<DIV>Two questions:</DIV>
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<DIV>1.) Is there somebody in our noble band who either could or
would be interested in making up enlarged wiring diagrams for the
Magnette. I know there are at least four of them, and maybe some
choices would have to be made, but did somebody volunteer that they
could provide an 11 X 17 wiring diagram copy either laminated or
suitable for lamination? If you are not such a person but have access
to equipment that could produce same, for a PRICE of course, I can
guaranty you sales of two of these from the get-go. I know we
discussed this at some time but cannot recall how we left it.</DIV>
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<DIV>2.) We also focused on a windscreen thread a year or two ago, and
somebody found that Pilkington (?name?) had a US distribution center
(somewhere in Ohio?) from which we might be able to expect a supply of
new windscreens. Is there a follow-up story here? There are
those of us who either need one or would buy one as a spare should
they become available. Once again, any new information about
this would certainly be welcome. I know the nightmare Steve
Hanegan went through to land a shipment of windscreens and rear
Varitone glasses here in the US of A. I suspect a good many of
those of us of the Varitone persuasion would be cheered to find a
stash of these bits available in North America, but I wouldn't wish
this task on Steve again for anything. So... can anybody report
anything new on this concern?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>Many thanks to anybody who can contribute to
this conversation!
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<DIV>Holiday Cheers,</DIV>
<DIV>Allen<BR>
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