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<DIV>Allen:</DIV>
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<DIV>I'm sure someone will give a more technical answer. But.</DIV>
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<DIV>The Bernoulli Principle takes place inside the carb, at the bridge where
the jet comes through and works as you describe.</DIV>
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<DIV>The sharp edge at the entrance to the carb causes turbulence which
decreases the amount of air that can get in. The stub stack (velocity
horn, trumpet, etc) smoothes out the air flow and allows more air to
enter.</DIV>
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<DIV>Lann</DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 11/14/2013 10:22:03 P.M. Central Standard Time,
bachldrs@comcast.net writes:</DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" color=#000000 size=2 face=Arial>I'm
cautiously venturing beyond my paygrade here, but are we not talking about the
Bernoulli Principle: stating that as air enters a conical tube the air
pressure is maximized, but as the tube diameter conically diminishes, air
pressure decreases as air speed increases inside the carb. Without a
conical stub stack, there is no acceleration in the air entering the carb
inlet. How much lift would we get from a cross-sectionally flat airplane
wing-top with a squared-off leading edge?
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<DIV>That being said, how can the original Magnette intake plenum perform any
of this function? Same question for the intake plenums on T-series cars. I
would think they would be Bernoullian disasters. Would a Magnette engine
always run better with stub stacks rather than the original plenum?</DIV>
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<DIV>Curious in Michigan.</DIV>
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<DIV>(Allen)</DIV>
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on length it can produce a much smoother flow, some say a bit of a ram
effect which increases power and torque . Longer stacks as in longer runners
means more torque while shorter ones mean more power. Not lots, but it
all contributes to a freer flowing intake which helps your freer flowing
exhaust to make a bit more power/torque and slightly better fuel
economy. You note vintage racers usually have anywhere from2.5 to 6
inch stacks. Some with a stocking for a coarse filter, most just hoping
nothing of consequence enters the throat… I have a set of 2.25 inch stacks
in my 3.25 inch K&N’s on my MGB and they seem to help. Just the ho hum
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stub stacks and I've tried emailing Steve Ash several times to see if he
would make some more, but I haven't got an answer from him.<BR><BR>So...
from a light scour of the internet there appears to be two types
available at a reasonable cost:<BR>$32.50 ea -<A
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excluded the K&N ones as they are very rough, by all
accounts.<BR>Are there any others that people would
recommend?<BR><BR>They're going to fit inside K&N filters that are 2
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