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<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4>Easy to tell if it is a broken crank. Take off
or loosen the fan belt and see if you can easily move the crankshaft pulley a
few degrees in either direction. If you can the crank is almost certainly
broken. The "T" series cranks break whether the engine has been recently
rebuilt or not and breakage appears independant of the engine overall
condition. The thought is that a harmonic vibration sets up in the crank
at about 4100 rpm and finally fatigues the crank and it breaks. With the
stump pulling 5.125 rear ratio 4100 rpm is around 60mph. Do yourself a
favour and change the ratio to 4.3:1.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4> I broke one in the late 60's.
Picked up a used crank for $25 from a Worseley 4/44, had it ground, picked up a
complete set of bearings, pulled the motor, took off the pan and installed the
4/44 crank. Nothing else was done. After I had the parts this was
done in less than one day and I drove the car for 10 years without any
problem-mostly in the city of Sydney OZ.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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Hugh Pite</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=bachldrs@comcast.net href="mailto:bachldrs@comcast.net">Allen
Bachelder</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=zmagnette@autox.team.net
href="mailto:zmagnette@autox.team.net">List for the Z Magnette Group - North
America</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 11, 2013 6:12
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Zmagnette] Engine Clatter
& pressure drop</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>OK, 5# oil pressure tells you it's hemorrhaging some place.
If it's a bearing, why should just one bearing catastrophically fail?
I rather like the broken crankshaft theory. A friend of mine had
that happen recently with his TF. As to repair, you can always get by for some
time with a minimalist approach if you don't drive it too hard or too much.
If all you do is take it out on 40 mph club tours - about 500 miles per
year, then that might be OK. If you want it right, do what it takes to make it
right. You may have to pull and disassemble quite a bit before you have
your answer - and by that time, it will not make economic sense to put it back
together with a minimal repair. Most of us don't want to go this way
more than once...
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<DIV>OTOH, a friend had to shut his TD down in Kansas on the Rallye to Reno
due to a horrible clatter that, after a tow back to Michigan, turned out to be
valve gear banging on an ill-centered valve cover! Of course that was not
associated with a loss of oil pressure...</DIV>
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<DIV>FWIW,</DIV>
<DIV>Allen<BR>
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<DIV>Still plenty of oil. After I stopped, I restarted the engine to
drive it slowly a few hundred feet to a safe spot off the highway. The
engine has never been rebuilt to my knowledge, but who knows its history? I
have owned it about 15 years. It has always run fine, although not super
peppy. <BR><BR>If it proves to be a bearing, does one just fix the
offending bearing, or is it a sign that everything is about to need
redoing?<BR><BR>I haven't had time to look at the rockers or the
bearings.<BR><BR>--Rick<BR><BR><BR>On Nov 11, 2013, at 5:25 PM, Steven
Trovato wrote:<BR><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Rick,<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">I think you have to investigate the problem before
you can decide on a course of action. Sorry for stating the obvious,
but there is still plenty of oil in there, right? If something
failed causing all the oil to pour out on that hill, you would have a
sudden drop in oil pressure and a whole lot of clatter. What is the
state of this engine? Recent rebuild or old and
tired?<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">-Steve T.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">At 06:40 PM 11/11/2013, Richard Greenberg
wrote:<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Hi all,<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"> This is about my TD, but
I bet you folks can help.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"> I decided to drive the
TD, instead of my Magnette, to our British car club's annual BBQ.
About 25 miles out, running at about 50 mph uphill but not too
hot, the engine started clattering and the oil pressure suddenly dropped
to about 5 psi. I had the poor car carried
home.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"> Any ideas about what
happened? Rod bearing wiped out? Broken rocker
arm?<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"> If it is one of those
things, should I just make the repair, or is it time to have the whole
engine rejuvenated?<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Thanks,<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Rick<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
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